So it is not a "cure".... so why have a finite # of visits...like 20?

Why charge so much? Why not do it forever, for much less $$ so patients could afford at least some? The answer is for the edification of the chiro to make as much money as possible.

Seems to me if the light breaks up the fragments, it won't be until more are made by the body, that another treatment would be useful. So going often may not be necessary even!

An affordable home unit would make sense therefore...so people could do their own symptom relief. Affordable and covered by insurance. With the millions of people out there anyone with any savvy could make a fortune by charging an affordable price for something that works, and has no side effects like the drugs do.

As long as greed reigns in this country we will never see it!

Mrs. D.

You hit the nail on the head!!!!

Thanks much

Hello,
I enjoy reading the information put forth on this forum many have probably seen the light therapy kits being advertised on TV. I had 5 ultra sound treatments on the neuroma in my right foot and it didn't help. My chiropractor stated to me that he had little success with clients suffering from PN, the only positives were the spinal adjustments. He did not charge medicare for the US treatments since they didn't help. He told me if I was into trying different methods of treatment to try the bee stings as they had helped some of his arthritis patients.

when the treatments end if they make you feel better that is when the pitch for the home unit begins. that is how it works with the anodyne therapy and subsequent home units they sell. as i said above medicare used to cover anodyne therapy treatment for those with diabetes or circulation problems but doesnt anymore. The results of the treatments may have been poor overall.

This is from an insurance company website:There has been insufficient evidence in the peer-reviewed, evidence-based literature to support providing coverage for this service. At this time, Anodyne® therapy for the treatment of diabetic peripheral neuropathy is not recognized as a standard of care, therefore is considered experimental and investigational, and not reimbursable by Medicare. There is currently no circumstance for which Medicare covers Anodyne® Therapy.

The website for the laser treatments says that after 20 visits, some patients come back for "touch up" treatments. Fancy way of saying that it's a never ending processing. The $2400 is just the beginning.

They charge this much because some people who do have the finance and are desperate will pay it. I saw a holistic doctor who was similar. My gramps see's him and is on 40 vitamins and supplements that he buys from the doctor and goes in monthly for I think 500 not covered by insurance. My gramps has the money though but it is still being taken advantage of. The doctor is super friendly salesperson which can make a person feel like they are being treated properly,etc. That is why I stated about the gentleman at the meeting be so friendly and relating it to his family. It is to pull the person in to feel safe etc.I am not saying there are not good alternative docs but many are out for the $.
You know awhile back I spoke to this acupuncturist. She stated that this may not help the actually nerve pain but what it does do is help with anxiety,sleep,digestion etc. Those combos help with pain because your body is in better balance. What I liked about her was that she was honest. When a doctor tells me I will be fine in X days or it is the cure I know they are full of it.

Its on my calendar. See you there.

I finally got to watch the whole thing once my internet came back late yesterday. I gotta get out of the woods. Anyway, I found so interesting when he spoke about stimulating the nerves. The only time I have complete 100% pain relieve is when I am at the gym and moving my arms continuous. Not weights or anything when I'm on a eliptical machine and it has the arm gear that goes back and fourth while you are holding it. That continuous movement stops the pain. Unfortunately it only last while I'm moving as soon as I stop it comes back. But I have found this very interesting. I have known that movement has helped my RSD for quite some time. And there are doctors who spec. in RSD for children who have a protocol out for this type of treatment. These children participate in treatments that consist of extreme PT and excercise, for lack of a better word, to beat the RSD away and stimulate the nerves back to a normal level. This works better with children than adults, but there is a team of doctors working on a protocol for adults out of the University of Chicago.

Thanks again for the info.

Gabbycakes
Gabbycakes

I. too, think--
 

--that for those who might find these types of treatments effective, the treatment would have to be continued over long periods of time--possibly permanently.

Now, it is likely that the vasodilating effects of these treatments would help with nerve maintenance and healing, especially if they allowed more nutrients and oxygen in, and more transport of waste products out, on a regular basis. In essence, that might even help to slow or arrest the progression of the neuropathic processes. I'd also think, though, that if the fundamental cause of the neuropathy is not addressed, whatever that is, these treatments might give some symptomatic relief, and promote some healing, but at best that would be a holding action. One would still have to get blood sugars under control, address autoimmune issues, promote optimum vitamn/mineral levels, etc., to hope to have a chance at long term relief--otherwise the conditons promoting the neuropathy would quickly reassert themselves after treatments.

Hi All.

I have been asked to clear up the price issue. The price ** is not fixed in stone. This is a doctor who will work with people and he gives discounts. I just wanted to make that perfectly clear. I believe he will lower that price (don't know how much) but I really do think he would do this.

I thought I had written this before but it was brought to my attention.

I'm glad I have the opportunity to clear this up.

And again, if anyone I know goes to see him and takes the treatments, and reports back to me I will surely post the information on this thread.