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Did someone ever heard about it? what do you think? does it work?
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"Thanks for this!" says: | DejaVu (11-16-2015) |
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This is basically B12 methyl form and benfotiamine. Nothing new.
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tried it----did nothing for me.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | DejaVu (11-16-2015) |
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I have purchased a bottle from Amazon.com. 120 pills, 2 pills twice a day, so a month supply, around $40, free shipping as I am in group where it is waived.
But as the moderator clearly mentioned, my statin use may be a source of my neuropathy in my toes, mostly. Mentioned in another thread. I may reduce dosage as was suggested but I have been on so long to control LDL I fear need to stay the course. Compounding my situation is plantar fasciatis in left foot which had been injured in surfing. The injury has healed but these other medical issues have surfaced but I continue to do all my activities although somewhat inhibited. When surfing I wear a surf booty with a Dr. ScHoll's support inside to help my left foot. I will report back on my results with this product. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | DejaVu (11-16-2015) |
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I always prefer going the route of getting the specific supplements I need and taking them individually. So, having them combined into one big pill seems counterintuitive. B-12 is best in sublingual form and benfotiamine as a capsule (both on empty stomach for max results). You can make your own "Nerve Formula" and usually at a cheaper price. Certain supplements also lend themselves better to different times of the day and some are better on empty stomach, some better with a meal, etc.
You can honestly find a ton of supplements that could help with nerve pain depending on what caused it for you. You can also try things individually to see if one thing works and another thing doesn't, that way you're not loading vitamins into your body that you really don't need. Many people take a B Complex vitamin for neuropathy relief. I have found B6 actually worsens my neuropathy while B1 improves it. To this day i can not tell for sure if B-12 has helped me for sure or not, yet some swear by it. So, an all in one B Complex is not something I have found success with. You really are better off experimenting. It takes time to see what you respond to. These all in one pills are like the old expression, "Jack of all trades, master of none". They also seem to be grossly overpriced and often times these guys will keep after you to buy the product with email or phone hassling.
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Diagnosis: Idiopathic Small Fiber Neuropathy (Statin Induced) • R-Lipoic Acid: 100mg - 300mg Daily • Acetyl-L Carnitine: 1500mg Daily • Vitamin B12: 1000 mcg Daily • Magnesium 500mg Daily • Grape Seed Extract 200mg Daily • Benfotiamine 300mg daily |
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I'm with Patrick on going the route of getting the specific supplements I need and taking them individually.
When all this began I started taking almost every supplement mentioned to try and fix myself as quickly as possible. I never knew what was helping and what was hurting my neuropathy. This was especially true with B vitamins. By separating my supplements and adding them one at a time I now know my body doesn't react well to B6 and it won't tolerate Niacin. Curcumin and Tumeric affect me similarly. Instead of saving time by taking all those supplements together I actually wasted time because I had to begin again. I also had vitamin/mineral testing through Spectracell to see what I was deficient in. I used this as a starting point. |
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If anyone here decides to use a mixed supplement that contains
methylcobalamin, you need to take it on an empty stomach. Most commercial supplements are not labeled correctly in this regard. Overall Patrick is correct, as we have many posts here in the past where combined products have been discussed. He put his post together very well, summarizing the topic. Another feature is to avoid mixtures with "proprietary" listings on the label....these are long lists of important sounding ingredients but they do not have actual milligram details for each. This is a trick, to get you to buy....as the mixture may only have 1mg of one item and many milligrams of another. It is really a bad way to start using any supplement. Also avoid websites that are "too slick" and make you hunt and search to find the ingredients. Sometimes they even automatically bill your charge card, without your permission. There are many scams out there, and you can Google a place before buying to see if complaints are logged on consumer sites. It is ideal to get some testing, at least for B12 and Vit D, before starting supplements. This way you can pick doses unique to your problem. The only "mixture" I take is B-right by Jarrow, all others are single dose. Keep in mind that nutrients sometimes reach a plateau...the enzyme systems that use them can become saturated, and overtime you may be able to use less to maintain. Staying at very high doses over a long period of time may lead to a vitamin "dependency" ...meaning your body will shift and maybe require those high doses. This happened with Vit C megadosing in the past..Where lowering the dose revealed a strange sort of scurvy in those people. If you are very deficient, it may take a while to see results with some nutrients, as the body has to "wake up" and set certain metabolic systems and enzymes going again, after a period of "drought" . The body is not a static machine... it is always changing and adjusting.
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei ************************************ . Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017 **************************** These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | madisongrrl (11-17-2015), Patrick Winter (11-17-2015), pinkynose (11-17-2015), zygopetalum (11-17-2015) |
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Thank you for the suggestions. Been trying the NSF pills as directed, twice a day with meals. Seems easy enough and cost is reasonable to me. The nerve discomfort seems to be lessening more on one foot than the other so hopefully the improvement continues. I am also halving my cholesterol med every night.
If this is only my imagination to hope my condition improves, I will try Patrick's suggestion to take each vitamin individually. I also may add the magnesium foot bath as Mrs. D. suggested. I am very grateful to all who have given compassionate thoughts for my problem. |
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Statins block synthesis of CoQ-10-- which is very very bad for you. Qunol is a new highly improved version --it is solubilized for better absorption. It is sold online, at WalMart's and Costco. 100mg a day =300mg of the older form.
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