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Old 09-27-2011, 05:18 AM #1
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I cannot really TELL people to not get vaccines. That is not my place really. It is a personal decision after all.

But our medical society does NOT know or reveal the risks of them so that people can CHOOSE safely.

People should weigh benefit vs risk, before deciding for themselves.

Vaccines contain adjuvants, which stimulate inflammation and immune response. Some people over-react and this inflammation becomes damaging and does not turn off. It is called a cytokine storm (new term now). People who have become ill right after vaccines... are reacting that way and it should be a warning sign for them.

People with adequate Vit D levels,may tend to get far fewer contagious illness. A study was released in Japan recently showing dramatic decrease in flu incidence with Vit D.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7061778.ece

Example of Dr. Blaylock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--nWrqIspnQ
This is a 4 pt interview... please watch them all...as he explains adjuvants and cytokine storm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBlx...eature=related
an overview about the questionable effectiveness of annual flu shots.

And I just found this...if you really want to be disgusted!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgBBw...eature=related
Soundtrack of interview with the doctor who managed Merck's vaccine program!
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:39 PM #2
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Default Got Vit B12 results

Ok everyone got Vit B12 results 380 neruro said this was normal, I saw neuro again today he did another EMG it was normal, I asked him again if he could put some sort of label on me, he just could not he does not know what to call what I have, I am trying to get referral to university hospital here. I also wanted to let you know that he will be doing a vit D test sometime this week, he said he did not know why he did not already do one, I also asked him about my thyroid test and the new rating scale and as you said mrsd he just dismissed the possibility of me being hypo, I still am going to fight that one. He also added more meds to the Gabapentin, he gave me nortriptlyne, so now taking both. Any comments welcome. Jan
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Default Definitely think--

--that B12 is to low, no matter what the range says.

Probably couldn't hurt to supplement with a daily oral dose in the 1000-5000mcg range, preferably methylcobalamin (so your body has to jump through fewer metabolic hoops to utilize the B12).
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Ditto what Glenn posted.

You are showing poor B12 status, and could use an aggressive change in that. B12 is not a worrisome supplement with risks.
So start that ASAP oral 5mg daily on empty stomach--methylcobalamin type-- for 3 months. And see what happens with your PN symptoms. That reactive hypoglycemia? That is a prediabetic state, and studies show prediabetes starts the PN process. You can only benefit from the B12.
Puritan's Pride and iherb.com and places like Vitacost and Swanson's--all carry it now inexpensively. Pennies a day.
This week the news has been flooded with B12 preventing cognitive problems in aging people. It was even on CNN and has been posted here on the various boards more than once.
The NIH recommends all people 50 and over (symptoms or not) to be taking a B12 supplement.

The meds you list are typical for PN. But they do not restore you or help you heal, they just cover symptoms for the most part. Some studies suggest that the nortriptyline may encourage nerve growth in the periphery, but that is still experimental and rather new.

Start modifying your diet. Get rid of sugars and starchy carbs, which stimulate the reactive hypoglycemia. Slow carbs instead will keep your blood sugars from getting low... legumes, beans, nuts, fruit with fiber like peaches/oranges/berries, veggies, etc. Avoid fruit juices. Fiber in fruit delays absorption and moderates blood sugars.
Increase protein to about 40% of calories a day and use good fats like omega-3s and olive oil to keep food in your stomach longer so the blood sugar spikes at mealtimes will be lower.

I'd get an A1C run to see where you are in that department. A higher A1C can show you have spiking after meals, with high sugars followed by low. It is a good test to reveal how your diet is working for you.

It will be a battle on the thyroid issue. In my case I had a right sided goiter with my borderline tests. The doctor ran a radioactive uptake and found my left lobe was partly dead and hence my problem was "undiagnosable" but he gave me the hormone anyway because I had signs of hypothyroidism. I settled in at 75mcg a day after the first year and have remained at this level for a while now. Signs of hypo= intolerance to cold, the PN (I had carpal tunnel in my hands severely too), edema of the hands, face. And orange tinted palms and feet...this sign is very typical of hypo people...because the betacarotene in vegetables we eat is converted in the liver to Vit A...using thyroid. I had the orange tinting of the skin very obviously... along with brittle nails, etc, and he used that finding along with the radio uptake to decide to put me on hormone which actually SAVED me!

But unless you see a holistic doctor who does bioidentical hormone treatments, you will have a battle with many endos to get treated with your test results.
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Default Medications and supplements

Mrsd and others,

Here is a list of my meds and supplements that I am planning on using for my PN, please keep in mind I am not a pill taker at all and this is so hard for me, I suffer From OCD and one of my triggers are medications and illness, now I have to face both very frightening! Here goes, Juice Plus, Omega3 fish Oil twice a day, 1 multivitamin once a day, Protandium, 5 mg. b-12 once a day, R-Lioc Acid 100mg once a day, Acetyl Carnate 500mg twice a day, Pantothenic Acid500mg twice a day, 80mg. Baby aspirin, Nortryptlyne 10mg. 3 times a day,Gabapentin 300mg 3 times a day. Xanax as needed. This seems like so many things to be taking will I be alright with all of this, I also suffer heart palps, will any of supplements make this condition worse, I am going to my family Doc today I will also show him this list, but I trust you all on here also so any comments so appreciated, I don't know if it would be good to add all of this at once or just do one at a time over a particular time. Thanks so much. Jan
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If you have unusual heart beats.... you should get a screening EKG before using the Nortriptyline. This drug prolongs the QT segment of each heart beat and can affect the heart.
In the low 10 mg dose,it is not so much of an issue as when the dose is much higher. But it is good to get that done anyway.

I have no experience with Protandim. However, it is an herbal product and as such, you should be careful with it IMO.

I would not use this now, but wait until you do the other supplements first. YOu may find you don't need Protandim at all.

I am leary of herbal products, especially mixing them with RX drugs.
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Default My Primary Doc is so Great

I saw my Primary Doc today, he is re testing my Vit. B12 He said you are probably right my Vit. B12 should be higher especially with my symptoms, I am hoping this could be my problem, wouldn't it be great if it's that easy!

He also is retesting my thyroid at my request, so today was a good appt. Also I have had an EKG in the hospital last week it was normal. Today he also did a Vitamin D test as well. When the results come in I will post them. I do believe the Lord is going to reveal my problem to my Doctors, and I also want to thank you for all of your suggestions they have been so helpful and I am grateful that I have a Doctor who is open to these suggestions. Jan
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Default vit D results

VitD 25 Hydroxy 30NG/ML VitD25-oH D 2<4 Reference range() Flag:N

Vit3 25-OHD3: 30NG/ML Ref range() Flag N Methymalonic Acid Serum<0.10 RefRange<0.40 Flag Normal. Don't know what this all means but Doc says is normal. Thanks MrsD. Jan
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