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Well, I just bought a double pack, so I'll use 3 a day until they're gone, then try the Q-gel.
Probably a stupid question, but can someone take too much? Do they even know how much someone should have in their system or what happens if you have too much? Seems like supplements aren't monitored like other meds. Should I ask for a blood test (if they even have one) for C0-Q 10? |
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Nope. This is something your heart and muscles and nerves need.
People with ataxia take up to 4 grams a day! PD patients also high but not at 4grams, maybe 1000-2000mg. They buy specially made products for their use. Q-gel is only used normally below 100mg a day.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | en bloc (02-22-2012) |
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http://www.raysahelian.com/coq10.html Dr. Sahelian usually has good information, so keep that in mind for other supplements as well. But his site contradicts the absorption claimed for non-soluble versions elsewhere on the net.
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Quotes from: http://www.raysahelian.com/coq10.html "I personally believe that high doses are not needed, and may even be unhelpful or detrimental. I would not feel comfortable recommending to my patients to take more than 50 mg, or maximum 100 mg, a day, for long term use unless as a necessary treatment of a medical condition." "Patients with high cholesterol levels who are placed on statin drugs such as Lipitor and Zocor should take additional CoQ10 in the amount of 10 to 50 mg daily, or a few times a week, to counteract the muscle damage from statin drugs (consult with your doctor). We still have a long way to go to determine the proper clinical role and benefit of this nutrient. Thus far it appears low dose usage a few times a week is reasonable." "Individuals on cholesterol medicines of the statin class such as Lipitor and others, may consider taking 30 to 50 mg a few times a week since statins decrease blood CoQ10 levels." Based upon his statements, do you think my 100mg a day is adequate for being on a statin? Or should I drop it to every other day? The higher doses seem to be for other conditions, like Parkinson's What do you suggest? Maybe I should keep the 100mg since I'm on one of the strongest statins (Crestor). |
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I sent you a PM with other links.
The problem here is that the absorption of CoQ-10 has always been a problem. All the sites on this topic say different things. For example the Q-gel site says, Quote:
Linus Pauling's site says 10% of oil soluble may be absorbed. Which is correct? This is because the studies themselves are all over the place. So it becomes very difficult to make a final recommendation, or chose a product. I think Dr. Sahelian is conservative, and he wants people to buy HIS products. When doctors go online, they tend to be very careful...for liability reasons. I tend to not recommend CoQ-10 except for people with Statin therapy and for the PDers I recommend their forum, because some of them post about their treatment with high dose. Dr. Sahelian's site did quote the very high doses used in studies. So the whole topic of coQ-10 is muddled IMO. I do see when looking on Epic4Health, that their product Q-gel has come way down in price. It used to be very expensive. So now their prices are competitive with the oil soluble form (in soybean oil). So staying with Q-gel may be the answer. The 30mg should be enough for most people. I wouldn't go above 100mg of that Q-gel form. I saw one comment yesterday somewhere, that a PDer was using 600mg of the Q-gel. Sorry I lost track and can't find it now, I was searching quite a bit yesterday and didn't save it. I get the impression that the really high doses get into the brain better. My dose of 300mg a day, oil base, is not getting to MY brain --I don't feel any different. R-lipoic and SAMe however will make me hyper and I have to watch doses on both of those these days.
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"Thanks for this!" says: | en bloc (02-23-2012) |
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So, overall, do you think this a supplement worth taking? I was DXed with a movement disorder many years ago (not PD) and now believe that I may have some mito damage, in addition to nerve damage, from treatment related to it. I thought the CoQ10 and PQQ might help, but now I'm not so sure.
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The CoQ-10 may help. You may want to take the new
Q-gel form. That way you won't need the higher doses. Consider the ribose too. It is on the acupuncture thread on the first page here. It really gives me more stamina and less muscle pain. I have alot of muscle aches and pains in the winter. ![]()
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