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Old 06-22-2012, 10:17 AM #21
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I am sure it will take a long time and for good reason for him to take another glucose test (he got "traumatized" as his arms were both black and blue after the extraction - even now).
That could be the result of a less experienced phlebotomist (blood draw technician, vampire). I have extremely deep veins; they can't use my elbows anymore, so draws are usually from my hands, and I've had similar experiences to your husband's when the new kids are drawing my blood. Now I ask for specific techs I know, or if not available, the most experienced they have. It can make a HUGE difference in the whole experience, from the needle jab to after-bruising/hemorrhaging.

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That could be the result of a less experienced phlebotomist (blood draw technician, vampire). I have extremely deep veins; they can't use my elbows anymore, so draws are usually from my hands, and I've had similar experiences to your husband's when the new kids are drawing my blood. Now I ask for specific techs I know, or if not available, the most experienced they have. It can make a HUGE difference in the whole experience, from the needle jab to after-bruising/hemorrhaging.

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Yes, Doc Smith, we will definitely ask for the most experienced technician in his next glucose test, if ever he agrees to it again.
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I think 71 at 2 hrs is quite low. A reactive low.
http://hypoglykemie.nl/gtt.htm
Not true hypoglycemia yet, but close. It would be helpful to have
fasting insulin run. When there are reactive lows, that suggests insulin excess. This may precede diabetes by several years, but can imply
impaired glucose utilization. Lows are starving nerves just like highs are.

While doctors look for highs, they ignore lows.
So while you are "normal" for diabetes, your lows, which might be more revealing on a longer test... are indicative of a possible reactive hypo state.
Hi Mrs. D,
I am trying to open the link you gave me months back but I cannot open it now.

You mentioned before that I could be reactive hypo and this may precede diabetes...guess what, I am having trouble with my sugar now. I am still good with fast blood sugar but sugar shoots up after meal (which is normal) but it goes back to normal level very slowly after meal. So, i was trying to go back to the link to see where I stand with my glucose hours after meal.

I monitor my glucose now to see what food and how much of anything make the blood sugar shoots up.

Btw, I still take R-Lipoic (among others the supplements listed in your recommendations). I am hoping that R-Lipoic will help stabilize my sugar.

Mrs.D, could there be some medications or supplements that may have triggered my abnormal sugar. There is no diabetic among my family members. I still eat same food, in fact, healthier food since I was diagnosed with my diseases.

I hope you are getting better each day.

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This link is a copy of the first one...

It still works:
http://www.rajeun.net/gtt.html

That link disappears, and reappears...that I gave before.
It comes from Europe. This is the second time the link failed...
they must have moved it.

I'll have to find it again...sorry.

The A1C is a better predictor over time... Do you know your current A1C?

Let me think about this, in the meantime.
Stress, stimulates the adrenals, and they make cortisol which will elevate sugars. Infections also elevate sugars. So does physical activity.
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Mrs D, I thought activity and exercise lowered sugar level.
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here is another link with the tables at least.

http://www.dsolve.com/news-aamp-info...ce-information

When a person does heavy exercise and then takes their sugars, they may be high. This is because of the cortisol effect and rapid conversion of glycogen that is stored.

They will then go down, in a while if that person is normal.

If a person is prediabetic the sugars can go up to 400 or more!

More explanation here:
http://www.diabetesdaily.com/forum/a...-blood-glucose

Overall on a daily basis in moderation, there is not much effect.


But when exercise is heavy, there will be a brief rise.
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This link is a copy of the first one...

It still works:
http://www.rajeun.net/gtt.html

That link disappears, and reappears...that I gave before.
It comes from Europe. This is the second time the link failed...
they must have moved it.

I'll have to find it again...sorry.

The A1C is a better predictor over time... Do you know your current A1C?

Let me think about this, in the meantime.
Stress, stimulates the adrenals, and they make cortisol which will elevate sugars. Infections also elevate sugars. So does physical activity.
Thank you Mrs.D for your usual quick reply.
My last AIC (as of Oct 2012) was 5.6. The endoc was not concerned abouot it. However, I have blood works done to monitor the effects of my medication every 2 weeks and the the glucose serum is part of the test. I take the test randomly e.g. with fasting or 1 hour or 2 , 3 hours after meal. The fasting blood sugar is good but all the tests after meal is always high. So, I decided to get a glucometer yesterday to monitor my blood sugar at home. I will make a graph to show to my endocrinologist. I read that Vitamins E and C affect the result of the AIC test. I wonder how many days should I stop taking them before the AIc test. I will take the test this coming Thursday.

Stress? Oh, I have plenty of that lately...I am trying consciouslyh ard to remove the stress but I just could not shake it up. I did not realize that infection can elevate the sugar? Could this be one factor why my s ugar is elevated?
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here is another link with the tables at least.

http://www.dsolve.com/news-aamp-info...ce-information

When a person does heavy exercise and then takes their sugars, they may be high. This is because of the cortisol effect and rapid conversion of glycogen that is stored.

They will then go down, in a while if that person is normal.

If a person is prediabetic the sugars can go up to 400 or more!

More explanation here:
http://www.diabetesdaily.com/forum/a...-blood-glucose

Overall on a daily basis in moderation, there is not much effect.


But when exercise is heavy, there will be a brief rise.
I could not open the first link. The Norton Security in my computer blocked it with the message: "Malicious Website Blocked".

I do my exercise at a minimum 5 days moderately. I always eat my breakfast before doing the exercise. I cannot do intense exercise because of my feet and legs.

My numbers after meals have not reached 150, my main concern though is the number goes down very slowly and by the next meal comes, the number is just almost down to normal (but not quite e.g. 111 or 112).
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When are you measuring? One hour and then two hours after eating? One hour is important.
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As we age, the insulin response curve does change.

Your A1C is more predictive therefore than blood glucose measurements. New research is showing that slowly elevating A1C is common for the elderly. And that it is not exactly smart to
aggressively treat at typeII diabetes anymore.

I put those papers up recently on a thread of Glenn's.
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post947907-8.html
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