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Old 04-09-2012, 02:00 AM #1
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Default Restylane vital face filler and nerve damage?

Hi
Reading the previouse response to my post it was mentioned vaccines and the effects it has on children. I have another question.
I had a form of face filler around the eyes and cheeks, called restylane vital injected in my face nearly 2 years ago.

I had 3 lots of dizzy/forty kind of spells lasting for 3 weeks at a time since and some mini ones in between. Which is what sent me to the neuro in the first place. When he did some tests on me back then he wrote l had early signs of PN, but he didn't,t mention it to me at the time and l only found out now.
Don't know why he wouldn't mention it to me.

Anyway, do you think that having this filler put in my face it could have caused some nerve damage?

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If you had events after the injections, I would consider them. It would be difficult to PROVE however.

Here is an article on the net, that says these injections can cause pain:
http://www.restylanesideeffects.org/...-good-and-bad/

Nerves are tricky things. Nerve damage, will cause reactions in some people and not others depending on the immune system and allergic potential that person has. RSD is a case in point.
A trauma, or surgery in the foot or knee or anywhere for some people begins a cascade of nerve reactions in the sympathetic nervous system that is extremely painful and affects the circulation of the blood in that area as well. It is thought that inflammatory cytokines formed from the nerve damage circulate in the body and then attack other nervous tissue elsewhere.
Once the pain cycle begins it is very difficult to turn off and many people with RSD have it for life.

Autoimmune nerve damage happens in MS also. In that case the myelin is attacked, which is the fatty insulation of the long nerves in the body. There are autoimmune neuropathies that are rapidly progressive, and one is called GBS..and follows viral illnesses or vaccines.

As we decode the human genome, we will find the genetic markers that are involved in these autoimmune disorders.
I just saw on the Science channel yesterday a show where a doctor found genetic markers on a man's cells that prevented him from getting AIDs back when the hemophilia treatments were all contaminated. This fellow, did not get AIDs at all, so his genetics were studied and this doctor then found that survivors of the plague in Europe (in Eyams England) also had this marker and allowed these particular people to not develop plague during the epidemic! So I think we will find more genetic things that are involved in other disorders and diseases.
It explains why one person is affected by something, and another is not.
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Default Glad to hear

I suppose thereis really nothing l can do about it now. But l do often wonder how would have felt if l never did this stupid procedure.

I deeply regret it, and just wish l never messed with my health.

It may be a long while before they find it kind of cure for this. So managing and being hopeful this will settled down and not get worse is my only hope.

Thanks so much for your replies.

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Restylane is on Drugcite.com

http://www.drugcite.com/?q=restylane

Neurological side effects have been reported. You can click on each category on the graph and it will give details.
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Thanks so much for that link. Isn't it interesting how l thought l did my homework before l had this procedure. This doesn't even include the women who don't report adverse effects like me.

Driving home from this procedure, l remember l was a bit dizzy, and didn't think much of it, but then a week later l had the biggest anxiety attack in my life. I thought l was going die, and thats where it all started. Ever since then l have been on a roles coaster ride with my health.
First bouts of dizziness lasting for a few weeks and then ear problems, and now this.

It's been 1.5 years of having this done, I would have thought my body would have got rid of it by now, but it has probably damaged my nerves in the process of elimination.
Two weeks after l had this done, l went back, and requested the, to dissolve it, with some solution. So he put more needles in my face. I am not sure it dissolved much except my own collagen.

I wonder if there is a way l can know for sure if any of this is still in my body?
Maybe there is a blood test or something. Even if there is l suppose the damage has been done.

I also had 2 Botox sessions around the same time. It could have been either or both. I would say it was the restylane.

I actually had the restylane Vital. The plastic surgeon sais we have it in our bodies, and it draws water the site where injected and that's how it smooths out wrinkle. I wonder if that is different to restylane. When l told the plastic surgeon l was unwell since having it done, he said he has never come across it, and that l will go down as a statistic.

You know l would rather have a wrinkly face anyway than feel unwell.

My husband thinks it has nothing to do with it. And even if it did, what's done is done and there is nothing l can do. It wonder if there is l can actually do.

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You know, there is another substance "we have normally in our bodies" that when injected, creates autoimmune responses.

It is a common adjuvant in vaccines..and is called squalene.

Squalene is in our livers and in olive oil that we eat. So it is thought to be "harmless" in the same way. But when injected into the body, it causes inflammation (the desired immune stimulating response) and is thought now to be a trigger for serious illness in some people.

This debate still rages on today...the pro-vaccine industry claiming squalene is "safe" and other doctors, like Dr. Blaylock and Dr. Mercola say no, it is not safe when injected.

http://www.fluscam.com/Squalene_Poison.html

But we do see increased numbers of young men on our MG forum, whereas men didn't acquire MG until after age 50, in the past. MG is an autoimmune disease. And younger and younger people are coming here to PN as the years pass.

So the active ingredient in Restylane may have a similar complex profile, and become allergenic when injected.

Botox for example has a scandal attached to it also. Allergan lost a huge liability suit from a damaged man who received Botox and the appropriate warnings were not given by Allergan to doctors.
http://www.beasleyfirm.com/tag/aller...tox-liability/

http://www.robertreeveslaw.com/blog/...fects-on-brain

People are unique from each other in many ways, and these new injections are not necessarily safe for "everyone". Some people do react in idiosyncratic fashion to injected substances.

So it is difficult to say about your injections. But if you were fine before, and have had difficulties only after receiving them, that appears significant to me. You do know your own body.

I think perhaps you have discovered a major trigger for yourself with these products. Add in the dietary triggers, and I don't think you
are idiopathic anymore. I would suggest you follow up on
autoimmune testing therefore as something may show up there, in the blood work.
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