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help1980 06-23-2015 03:13 AM

symptoms after taking a rabies booster
 
Took a booster shot of anti-rabies (Rabipur 2 shots) after playing with a pet dog (the dog did not attack or bite me but there was a cut with some bleeding). Last shot was on 26th April.

Nine days later, on 5th May, just after midnight, I had a tonic-clonic convulsion just after falling asleep. I have no personal or family history of seizures (febrile or epileptic)
I had venous brain MRI done the next morning which was normal. In the evening I had a lot of bloodwork and an EEG done and both were normal. Neuro said that Rabipur could lead to ADEM but since MRI was clear that didn’t seem to be the case.
The very next day following the seizure, I started experiencing humming/buzzing sound and slight giddiness whenever I would get up. I also noticed that this would happen whenever I would get up after lying down any time of the day. After a week, the throbbing went away on its own but the humming has since become permanent.
I went to my ENT when the humming and giddiness started and he diagnosed it as Tinnitus. He also did an Audiometry test which showed mild hearing loss, especially in the right ear. The ENT said that Tinnitus + giddiness could be either because of an infection, or because of DAMAGE TO THE CRANIAL NERVE or idiopathic.

Around 8-10 days after the seizure (about 17-19 days after the vaccine), I started to have extreme back pain out of nowhere. The neuro asked me to get an X-ray of the dorsal spine which was normal. I did a 5 day course of tramadol when the back pain went away but it came back in full force after I finished the course. It too has become permanent (it varies in intensity from day to day).
A week after the seizure, I also started having pins and needles sensations in my legs. Initially, I would experience only this when I was sitting. I also started having muscle twitches randomly a few times a day. One fine day (not very sure when), I woke up to find my left hand fully asleep. Since then the tingling/pins and needles/numbness increased a lot. I also started getting A LOT muscle twitching all over my body.
In the last 1-2 weeks, the numbness/tingling in my hands and legs has increased a lot. I also get shooting pains in my hand/leg that come and go away. Whenever, I pick something up, my hands start to pain immediately. Climbing stairs (only 2-3 stories) leads to a lot of leg cramping, tingling, discomfort and shooting pain. The rigidity in my hands causes difficulty in typing (for example) and makes it very difficult for me to lift anything for an extended period of time. I have also rarely experienced tingling on the right side of my forehead. I also wake up with a lot of numbness in my hands everyday. In the last 2 days, I have noticed a lot of numbness in my right leg and it moves in an “irregular” fashion when I walk.

Since then, I have tried to find whether the vaccine had anything to do with the seizure and the symptoms that I have suddenly started experiencing. I scoured the VAERS database which records adverse events after vaccine use in the United States. These are reported by public health authorities and physicians. I found 63 cases of seizures in adults (25-44) who had no history of epilepsy or seizures and had their first seizure 0-20 days following RABIPUR. The number of first time convulsions after ALL Rabies vaccines was over 300. Some of those 63 cases also listed tingling in the arms and legs and muscle twitching as symptoms.



My Neuro agrees that I had some sort of autoimmune/hyper immune reaction to the vaccine. He also told me that muscle twitching is a common feature of motor neuron disease but he also clarified that it doesn’t mean that I have it and he wants me to wait and see what happens. However this has scared me a lot. I have also read that tingling, muscle weakness and muscle twitching can be due to CIDP. My family doctor feels I have developed peripheral neuropathy as part of the vaccine reaction and it will take a few months to a year to go away.


I havent done a NCS/EMG and lumbar puncture yet

Can anyone let me know what this sounds like?

madisongrrl 06-23-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150135)
I have also read that tingling, muscle weakness and muscle twitching can be due to CIDP.

Did the your neuro find signs of weakness during his physical exam? Or was it perceived weakness? When my SFN/sensory symptoms hit (and they hit hard), I felt like I had weakness in different parts of my body...but it was my perception of what what happening. I significantly twitched for months on end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150135)
My family doctor feels I have developed peripheral neuropathy as part of the vaccine reaction and it will take a few months to a year to go away.

I havent done a NCS/EMG and lumbar puncture yet

Your family doc seems great and well informed. If I were in your shoes, I'd hold off on a lumbar puncture and maybe schedule the NCS/EMG a few months out. If you start to feel better you can cancel it. I'm sorry that you are experiencing this. It does seem like people who have reactions to vaccines tend to get improvements over time.....or at least the the personal stories that I've read about do.

help1980 06-23-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1150207)
Did the your neuro find signs of weakness during his physical exam? Or was it perceived weakness? When my SFN/sensory symptoms hit (and they hit hard), I felt like I had weakness in different parts of my body...but it was my perception of what what happening. I significantly twitched for months on end.



Your family doc seems great and well informed. If I were in your shoes, I'd hold off on a lumbar puncture and maybe schedule the NCS/EMG a few months out. If you start to feel better you can cancel it. I'm sorry that you are experiencing this. It does seem like people who have reactions to vaccines tend to get improvements over time.....or at least the the personal stories that I've read about do.

yup he says its perceived weakness...he too wants to hold off on the spinal tap...did you recover completely? Im scared ****...excuse my language...but its very difficult and strange to have all these symptoms out of nowhere

madisongrrl 06-23-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150233)
yup he says its perceived weakness...he too wants to hold off on the spinal tap...did you recover completely? Im scared ****...excuse my language...but its very difficult and strange to have all these symptoms out of nowhere

It is tremendously scary to have these type of symptoms out of nowhere. The cause of my symptoms was not due to vaccine. I'm considered idiopathic for right now. I've been at this for just under 1.5 years so it's hard to tell if I'm getting better or not yet. I will have a string of a few good days, followed by really bad days. It just keeps cycling. Gabapentin helps a lot with the burning and electrical sensations.

Albertakewl 06-23-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150135)
Took a booster shot of anti-rabies (Rabipur 2 shots) after playing with a pet dog (the dog did not attack or bite me but there was a cut with some bleeding). Last shot was on 26th April.

Nine days later, on 5th May, just after midnight, I had a tonic-clonic convulsion just after falling asleep. I have no personal or family history of seizures (febrile or epileptic)
I had venous brain MRI done the next morning which was normal. In the evening I had a lot of bloodwork and an EEG done and both were normal. Neuro said that Rabipur could lead to ADEM but since MRI was clear that didn’t seem to be the case.
The very next day following the seizure, I started experiencing humming/buzzing sound and slight giddiness whenever I would get up. I also noticed that this would happen whenever I would get up after lying down any time of the day. After a week, the throbbing went away on its own but the humming has since become permanent.
I went to my ENT when the humming and giddiness started and he diagnosed it as Tinnitus. He also did an Audiometry test which showed mild hearing loss, especially in the right ear. The ENT said that Tinnitus + giddiness could be either because of an infection, or because of DAMAGE TO THE CRANIAL NERVE or idiopathic.

Around 8-10 days after the seizure (about 17-19 days after the vaccine), I started to have extreme back pain out of nowhere. The neuro asked me to get an X-ray of the dorsal spine which was normal. I did a 5 day course of tramadol when the back pain went away but it came back in full force after I finished the course. It too has become permanent (it varies in intensity from day to day).
A week after the seizure, I also started having pins and needles sensations in my legs. Initially, I would experience only this when I was sitting. I also started having muscle twitches randomly a few times a day. One fine day (not very sure when), I woke up to find my left hand fully asleep. Since then the tingling/pins and needles/numbness increased a lot. I also started getting A LOT muscle twitching all over my body.
In the last 1-2 weeks, the numbness/tingling in my hands and legs has increased a lot. I also get shooting pains in my hand/leg that come and go away. Whenever, I pick something up, my hands start to pain immediately. Climbing stairs (only 2-3 stories) leads to a lot of leg cramping, tingling, discomfort and shooting pain. The rigidity in my hands causes difficulty in typing (for example) and makes it very difficult for me to lift anything for an extended period of time. I have also rarely experienced tingling on the right side of my forehead. I also wake up with a lot of numbness in my hands everyday. In the last 2 days, I have noticed a lot of numbness in my right leg and it moves in an “irregular” fashion when I walk.

Since then, I have tried to find whether the vaccine had anything to do with the seizure and the symptoms that I have suddenly started experiencing. I scoured the VAERS database which records adverse events after vaccine use in the United States. These are reported by public health authorities and physicians. I found 63 cases of seizures in adults (25-44) who had no history of epilepsy or seizures and had their first seizure 0-20 days following RABIPUR. The number of first time convulsions after ALL Rabies vaccines was over 300. Some of those 63 cases also listed tingling in the arms and legs and muscle twitching as symptoms.



My Neuro agrees that I had some sort of autoimmune/hyper immune reaction to the vaccine. He also told me that muscle twitching is a common feature of motor neuron disease but he also clarified that it doesn’t mean that I have it and he wants me to wait and see what happens. However this has scared me a lot. I have also read that tingling, muscle weakness and muscle twitching can be due to CIDP. My family doctor feels I have developed peripheral neuropathy as part of the vaccine reaction and it will take a few months to a year to go away.


I havent done a NCS/EMG and lumbar puncture yet

Can anyone let me know what this sounds like?


hello help. I had 3 imovax rabies vaccine, in between sept-oct 2014, I started off with sharp shooting pain (after the 2nd needle), then on to tingling after the 3rd. My back was sore in one spot and still is. I have tingling randomly thru my body. I also feel like I'm wearing something on my
Lower legs and lower arms, I twitch and jerk everywhere. Mostly when I'm
Sitting. I've had a couple good days where I felt. I notice my left side is "asleep" I think I no what u are
Talking about with the viberation . I had that in my lower back a few
Times after having the vaccines. I also notice if I try and fall asleep when I want to take a nap, I can't because and arm or something will jerk. I have seen a few doctors already. And I have had a nct done, which said my nerve were leg teenage nerves? Lol except for my left elbow where they said the nerve was pinched by the funny bone, and then said my right wrist had carpel tunnel. But I don't have the symptoms of that? My pinky a on both hands are
Numb? They first thought I had ms, I had a scan on my head, that come
Back clear. I am waiting for one on my cervical spine. I seen an internist that told me that he thinks it sensory cipd. But the nct said no. Funny thing is then didn't do th 2nd part of it. The dr also figured maybe transverse mylitis . Or a motor nueropathy .I'm finally seeing a neurologist. After a 9 month wait. So we wi see what he says.

help1980 06-23-2015 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albertakewl (Post 1150367)
hello help. I had 3 imovax rabies vaccine, in between sept-oct 2014, I started off with sharp shooting pain (after the 2nd needle), then on to tingling after the 3rd. My back was sore in one spot and still is. I have tingling randomly thru my body. I also feel like I'm wearing something on my
Lower legs and lower arms, I twitch and jerk everywhere. Mostly when I'm
Sitting. I've had a couple good days where I felt. I notice my left side is "asleep" I think I no what u are
Talking about with the viberation . I had that in my lower back a few
Times after having the vaccines. I also notice if I try and fall asleep when I want to take a nap, I can't because and arm or something will jerk. I have seen a few doctors already. And I have had a nct done, which said my nerve were leg teenage nerves? Lol except for my left elbow where they said the nerve was pinched by the funny bone, and then said my right wrist had carpel tunnel. But I don't have the symptoms of that? My pinky a on both hands are
Numb? They first thought I had ms, I had a scan on my head, that come
Back clear. I am waiting for one on my cervical spine. I seen an internist that told me that he thinks it sensory cipd. But the nct said no. Funny thing is then didn't do th 2nd part of it. The dr also figured maybe transverse mylitis . Or a motor nueropathy .I'm finally seeing a neurologist. After a 9 month wait. So we wi see what he says.

Did you do an EMG with your NCS? pls keep me posted on what your doctor says

Albertakewl 06-23-2015 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150385)
Did you do an EMG with your NCS? pls keep me posted on what your doctor says


No, for some reason they didn't do the emg part, I do believe it's all and emg, but they only did the nerve conduction test on me.

I will be asking the neurologist when I see him. Why they only did the one test. I also mentioned about doing a nerve biopsy or muscle biopsy and they said something about not like doing them because it take forever for them to heal.

help1980 06-26-2015 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albertakewl (Post 1150391)
No, for some reason they didn't do the emg part, I do believe it's all and emg, but they only did the nerve conduction test on me.

I will be asking the neurologist when I see him. Why they only did the one test. I also mentioned about doing a nerve biopsy or muscle biopsy and they said something about not like doing them because it take forever for them to heal.

my neuro told me that nerve biopsies lead to near permanent numbness of the area where it is conducted...so he doesn't go for it unless absolutely necessary. He thinks I have developed CFS/Fibro thanks to the vaccine...wants me to do physiotherapy..Im not very sure about this

Albertakewl 07-02-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by help1980 (Post 1150877)
my neuro told me that nerve biopsies lead to near permanent numbness of the area where it is conducted...so he doesn't go for it unless absolutely necessary. He thinks I have developed CFS/Fibro thanks to the vaccine...wants me to do physiotherapy..Im not very sure about this

Are they gonna do a nerve conduction tes/emg?

How are u feeling? What is cfs?

help1980 07-02-2015 10:10 PM

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