is still my current impression:

There is something in the patches that oxidizes in the air when mixed with sweat, changes color, and
hence fools you into thinking they are sucking out toxins.


I wonder if people who have severe neuropathy who don't sweat would have the same reaction? Why the soles of the feet? Notice the patch does not cover the whole foot?

Here are some articles to consider:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/sweat1.htm
http://www.indiadiets.com/myths/Myth...ids_toxins.htm

Because feet stink, people think that toxins are there, but in reality it is bacteria making the "smell"..
from http://health.howstuffworks.com/question514.htm

I think that those patches (very high price is a give-away sign) are playing on simple chemical facts.

What is tourmaline?
from http://www.gemstoneeducation.com/Tourmaline_2.htm So this patch contains heavy metals?

The vinegar content is important, because skin is normally acidic. In fact we have medical ointments designed to work with skin, when it is irritated or damaged... this base (which often has medications added to it) is called
Acid Mantle cream, named after the acid mantle found on healthy skin:
http://www.smartskincare.com/skinbiology/sebum.html

I don't think these patches are removing "toxins"... I would like to know WHAT toxins, wouldn't you? Has anyone analyzed these patches AFTER they turn dark?

At this point I am thinking--bunkum... expensive bunkum.

If Alan does try these ultimately, I'd be interested. To see if they worked or did anything. Nothing in them seems expensive enough to warrant that high price.

They did a story on the local news here about those foot baths that were supposed to remove toxins. It was proven to be a rip off. They did the test by using whatever it is they use in the water and just watched it turn black without anybody putting their feet in. There was a company here putting white lab coats on people and they were having these parties where you paid somewhere around 40 bucks to get the "toxins" removed.

http://kvbc.com/global/video/popup/p...geAdTag=Search Results&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&hostPageUr l=http%3A//kvbc.com/Global/SearchResults.asp%3FRecordNum%3D21%26vendor%3Dwss% 26qu%3Dfoot+baths&rnd=29585303


Here is the link to the video...Sue

And here is the link to the video about the "miracle water" amazing that people can sell this stuff with a straight face. Even more amazing that people believe a scam like these. Buyer beware...Sue

http://kvbc.com/global/video/popup/p...geAdTag=Search Results&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&hostPageUr l=http%3A//kvbc.com/Global/SearchResults.asp%3FRecordNum%3D1%26vendor%3Dwss%2 6qu%3Dfoot+baths&rnd=17026025

Hi,My Dr. keeps telling me there was no reason for my Pn other than a mutant gene.I go in with a list each time.. could it been exposure to to some chemical,could it been x-rays,could it been a drug reaction of some kind...I go CRAZY with trying to figure out the why and how,i wish it something easy as like vitamins,or lack of vitamins.It be a great comfort to me to be able to pin these disease on something.Why did this happen?What caused my body to start destroying the Peripheral nerves?Why did it progress so fast?..Every night i have this dream someday dr. will pour a dark purple liiquid into a beaker and red smoke curls upward...he will shout EUREKA...I'v found the answer to periphereral neuropathy..Other Drs. gather around and shake there heads and say..Darn,is that all it was? Why didn't we think of that!! My son tells me i need more sleep his wife a Psychiatrist saids it can't hurt or just maybe someday my dream will come true....If it sounds good and doesn't give you a rash try it Sue

Those 2 women have to be the stupidest people I have ever seen. All dressed up in white lab coats!!

Well those ionic baths are in every chinese massage place in Sydney with big posters showing the "removal of toxins". I have never tried it but have always wanted to. I have been afraid of the electric current to be honest.

The chinese massage places are peddling cure all herbs and ionic cleanse and whatever else under the sun you can imagine. Just to share something, I had gone in for a simple massage one day,and the massage guy said to me ,"what's wrong with your kidney? I replied, nothing at all! He then asked why does it hurt when I presses my back? I said," probably because I have a bad back!"

He then said," I have some ancient chinese herbs that can help you." I said," I don't buy herbs that aren't approved by my GP as I have a medical condition." He then said "you really need these herbs". I said," I don't want your damn herbs ok... so don't ask me again!"

Anything for money sometimes. It's so disgusting. Also about 2 weeks ago, my husband and I saw a man in a shopping centre with a stall selling Goji juice by the box full. He had a piece of paper that listed all the conditions that it cures. My husband approached him,and asked me if he can spend $280.00 on a box of Goji juice. I told the man, I watched a news clip of the owner of Goji juice basically being reduced to a fraudster, and laboratory studies had shown that Goji juice had almost no nutrition at all!! Then I looked at my husband and said "its all a scam"!

The man selling the Goji juice looked at me with contempt in his eyes.

Oh my, it' a scam!!!

I'm going to check out the links that you guys posted. Sounds like a lot of snakeoil salesman are still operating on poor unsuspecting people!!!

That's why I ask you guys everything first.

Maybe someday.......
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Okay, I'm back, just saw the videos with the two ladies in the white coats. I was actually embarassed for them. They looked like they were caught red handed and they didn't know what to say.
Snakeoil salesmen.....you're not gonna get my husband.

It might illustrate why I am so skeptical.

When I was a teen, I had a chemistry set (no surprise there )

My brother who is 11 yrs younger than I, was a little boy. These sets were
very common in those days, but not so much now because of safety rules we now have. There were many little
experiments in oxidation/reduction reactions.

One would take a clear liquid of an iron compound, and add a few drops of
another clear solution, like sodium thiosulfate, and bingo, get a fancy precipitate. Same for copper, and other metallic ions. Same with acetic acid.

Now, 45+yrs later, I don't remember them all. But they were MAGIC for my brother! My parents used this fascination to control his behavior..you know...if you behave..she will do the magic for you!

I think the moisture from sweat reacts with the heavy metals (the ones I bolded in the post above) and changes their state to a precipitate, which is non soluble and colored. The vinegar is in there to provide the acidic format in
case the person does not have acidic skin.

That's ok Mel, now Goji juice for 280.00 a box iif that wasn't so sad it would be funny..Got to telll my 3 children about that 1 i wonder how many people in pain fell for that one,should of accidently stepped on his foot to see if he would sell it to himself!!!! Sue

Reminds me of what happened to me in Chemistry Class when I was 16.
I went to a private parochial school (with the nuns). Sister Mary Clare was in front of the class and we all had some kind of bunsen burners and beakers of some stuff. The stuff smelled bad (now don't ask me what this was because who on earth can remember 45 years or so ago!!!!).

Because the girl sitting next to me was somebody I couldn't stand (she thought she was better than anybody), I played a practical joke on her.
I handed her the beaker of the stuff and told her to take a whiff (bad idea, because SMOKE STARTED TO COME OUT OF HER NOSE). She started screaming, the nun almost killed me, (oh for the good old days).

The stuff we do when we're 16 years old!!!!

lol
Melody

These patches are available from LTD Commodities for $24.95. But I agree, they are probably a trick. Has anyone tried epsom salts in a foot bath?

I remember my mother and my italian grandmother used Epson Salts for absolutely everything that was wrong with you.

Soaked your feet in it. Drank it for your stomach.

God, I feel so old!!! lol