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Old 05-04-2007, 07:24 PM #1
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Jarrett,

Fabulous. And you have some better informed medical people than the usual.

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Boy, am I glad I was reading this particular thread. I just noticed where Mrs. D. said to take Fish Oil. I ran over to Alan and said "where's the Fish Oil?" He had to stop taking it when he began the plavix and aspirin because of his stent. He found it and it said "expiration March of 09".

So tomorrow I begin my fish oil too!!!!!!!!!


Today I spent the day at Cornell. My sugar numbers are just fine. We discussed my neuropathy (they can't do anything because this is a protocol to prevent heart disease in diabetic woman and I just get all test strips and meds and exams for free. I told her about going to the Podiatrist and that my feet went nuts after that. She just said "no, it has nothing to do with his using a vibrating tool, you have neuropathy" She then said "you can discuss this with Dr. Fred and there are meds you can take". I then said:

"Listen, I've been down this road with my husband (she knows the whole story)" " I know all about the neurontin, the lyrica, etc." She responded "NEURONTIN??? for neuropathy???? No good, Lyrica is better, and there is also Elavil"

I responded "yeah, I know all about these meds, what I don't want to do is mask this condition, I want to FIX this condition. I am now taking Methyl B-12 and I pulled out the bottle and showed her. She just said "well, that can't hurt you". Yeah, I know, Doctors and supplements. Not a good mix.

But she was supportive and didn't pooh pooh it too much.

Then I met a person on the access-a-ride who said she had diabetes and neuropathy and she took a supplement (I CANNOT REMEMBER IT, DARN IT). It's two names and theres a BIRCH in there someplace. Anybody have a clue?? I am so stupid, I didn't write it down. This person said she took it for her neuropathy and the pins and needles went away. I even repeated it to myself and then it went clear out of my head. It had an unusual name.
If I hear it again, I'll go BINGO.


Let me tell you, when we have bad days, all I had to do was remember the guy who walked into Cornell today. He must have been in a fire because half his face was burned off and his hands were wrapped. I will never forget that image. So I'll continue to take my Methyl B and now the Fish Oil.

I may turn into a mermaid!!!!!

lol Melody
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Jarrett,
I also went to my neuro this week and he said that I am so sensitive to meds, that he recommends I just stay on the B-vitamins and other vitamins for now. They are working so well. I'm also drinking this fortified "milkshake in a can" for diabetics. I'm not diabetic, but I don't tolerate sugar cuz of the Gastric bypass - and the liquid form is easier to absorb. This vitamin route is working beautifully for now (knock on wood and Lord-willing!), so I'm passing on the heavy drugs. It's a good feeling not to be dazed all the time and worried about side effects. Glad to hear you're having decreased pain. That's a major worry. I know that pain is what wears me down (and freaks me out) more than anything. Best wishes!

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STILL say, LUV the cat! I don't think a soul here hasn't had that expression at LEAST once!

Also, MORE IMPORTANTLY, you mite even have a savvy doc who is really actually willing to WORK WITH you...rather than ON you? There is a BIG difference, as all the tales here can tell. In the early days of NT, OK I'm gonna find it now....hold on? Got it here it is below....

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...p?t=177&page=2
Mrs D's post there about in the middle of the page... I hope this all info which is mind-boggleing to begin with mite help you out of your own BOGGLE?

Melody? Just read up a bit on the Omegas and Fish oils...don't try to 'overachieve'? Please? I say this because I've experienced two s/e's that can or can-not be issues...depending on where you are physically.
The first is, that, well, foodstuffs can 'exit' quite rapidly if you have too much.. AND I MEAN RAPIDLY...unless you have quick access to a commode it can be more than embarrassing. Second is if one takes too much of some brands...one acquires a ...well--'fishy smell' about them? And I don't mean just anchovies here! That's been my experience at least, and rite now I'm searching for a balance between the omegas and all the extra calcium, D's and magnesiums I'm trying to force feed myself... Be forewarned? I can be downright mortifying unless you know.... Hugs to all!!! - j
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Dahlek:

You said "I say this because I've experienced two s/e's that can or can-not be issues...depending on where you are physically."


Okay, you got me!!! What is s/e's???

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SIDE-EFFECT!....usually those one doesn't appreciate..

Be blunt? Calcium = possible Constipation.
Fish OIL = possible 'opposite of' Constipation...

Too much Fish Oil? Much 'opposite' of Constipation...as in more than VERY!

Need I be clearer..and still be politically correct these days?

You would really, REALLY need to wash your knickers ASAP in such adverse situations! - j

We are NOT talking about JUST passing gas here!
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Oh my!

Calcium does cause me constipation problems. Never had much of a problem with fish oil though.
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Default dalek how sweet

Jarette that was interesting,now that a new one on me,
Just go a little light on the fish oil but very good for your inners.
Or Dahlek is right as well perhaps your outers! Sue
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It makes me happy that people seem to like kitty. That's how I truly feel some days.

Everything in moderation. Might take a bit longer to be effective but there's also less chance for sides, IMO. Think of it this way, everything you do, add, etc, is a change for your body. If it's too rapid a change it can cause problems.
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Dahlek:

I never laughed so hard in all my life. You are SO RIGHT ABOUT THE FISH OIL!!!I took my B complex this morning, along with my shot of insulin and, for the first time, I took a fish oil pill. For the record, the bottle says: "Natural Fish Oil Concentate 1000 mg (which equals 1 gram, right??).

Well, for the past 2 hours, I never went to the bathroom so much in my life. I only took one pill for god's sake. Should I buy a smaller version of this stuff. I mean, jeeez, I feel really thin, right now. lol AND THE DOSAGE SAYS TO TAKE ONE PILL AT EACH MEAL!!!!!!! Are they for real???

What happened was this afternoon I went to the laundromat and I forgot to eat lunch. I go home at 3 p.m. and felt shaky. I said to myself "uh oh, check your sugar (it was 110 this morning which is fine). Well, at 3 p.m. it was 60. I immediately had lunch which was a can of water packed tuna on my lettuce and tomato greens, and a small muffin with a cup of coffee. I was starving.

Well, in 30 minutes, let's just say, I FELT THIN!!! And since I already went this morning (like I usually do after breakfast), let's just say THIS WAS A SURPRISE!!!!. It reminded me of al those years when I was taking metformin. I never got out of the bathroom. Once I switched to the Lantus,well all was forgiven. All was normal.

Jeez, never knew fish oil does that to you. I don't think I'll do this again tomorrow.

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