Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-17-2013, 06:34 AM #1
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
Default And--

--if you are experiencing neuropathy as a result of impaired glucose tolerance, which is certainly possible (I've posted before a lot of links about neuropathic symptoms occurring well before people are diagnosed with frank diabetes), it would likely effect the small, unmyelinated fibers first, and these are not measurable by standard EMG/nerve conduction studies, which only measure gross abnormalities of larger, myelinated nerves.

There is other testing that might be brought to bear, including quantitative sensory testing, which is designed to ascertain the responsivity of the small fibers that subsume temperature sensation, and skin biopsy to determine density and condition of intraepidermal small fibers.
glenntaj is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ginnie (08-17-2013), Wide-O (08-21-2013)
Old 08-22-2013, 03:03 AM #2
Hopeless Hopeless is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 1,232
10 yr Member
Hopeless Hopeless is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 1,232
10 yr Member
Default

Hi Glenn,

Could you elaborate on "quantitative sensory testing"? What is it? How is it done?

Thanks,
Hopeless is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 06:33 AM #3
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
Default Quantitative sensory testing--

--is designed to measure the responsivity of the small fibers that subsume the sensations of pain and temperature.

Generally, electrodes are attached to fingers, toes, other parts, and electrical impulses of known temperatures are sent through them. The test relies on patient self-reporting; the patient is supposed to tell whether the electrodes produce sensations of cold, warm, hot and pain. By gradually or rapidly raising or lowering the temperature and listening to the patient reports, the tester can get an idea if those nerve fibers are responding within normal ranges--certain rapid temperature raisings or lowerings, for example, should produce a sensation of pain if fibers are responding normally.

See:

http://peripheralneuropathycenter.uc...nt/index.shtml

http://mcgs.bcbsfl.com/?doc=Quantita...sory%20Testing

http://www.neurology.org/content/60/6/898.full


Unfortunately, as the second link points out, a lot of insurances consider the procedure experimental and are unwilling to pay for it.

Last edited by glenntaj; 08-23-2013 at 06:19 AM.
glenntaj is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ginnie (08-22-2013), Hopeless (08-22-2013)
Old 08-22-2013, 12:35 PM #4
Hopeless Hopeless is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 1,232
10 yr Member
Hopeless Hopeless is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 1,232
10 yr Member
Default

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for the great explanation. I am so glad you are here.
Hopeless is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
ginnie (08-22-2013)
Old 08-22-2013, 12:59 PM #5
029anser 029anser is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 40
10 yr Member
029anser 029anser is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 40
10 yr Member
Default go get your EMG

Burk

I would get the EMG...it is the basic neuro "101" test for nerves

I've had 5 done in the past 2 years...it is "irritating" but it does not hurt..you will survive

your EMG results will at the very least give a clue to your neuro what you do NOT have as well as what you might have

it will also establish a baseline EMG test so if your symptoms increase in severity/duration down the road your neuro could order a 2nd EMG to compare with the first

I have stated many times "not knowing what is wrong with you is often worse than knowing what is"

if I were you I would call your neuro back and schedule it...you have nothing to lose
029anser is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
echoes long ago (08-22-2013), ginnie (08-22-2013)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.