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Old 01-30-2014, 01:24 AM #1
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Question Peripheral Neuropathy and Acupuncture - Is it getting better or worse?

Hey all,

I'm a new member to this forum, but I've had peripheral neuropathy since 2010. I had a severe neurological reaction to Larium (mefloquine) and ever since then I have had periodic PN. Typically, episodes are a few months apart and last for 2 weeks (terrible burning in hands up the forearms, and in the feet - from the heels up the legs and in the toes. My fingers get so sensitive that it becomes excruciating to type, and my heels are so sensitive that I cannot touch them to the ground.) Then, after 2 weeks, it stops.

Anyway, after a recent episode, I decided to start getting acupuncture. I got sick of having these strange episodes and I figured it couldn't hurt! But after 3 acupuncture sessions my hands and forearms are prickly like before an episode, and my feet are slightly sensitive. Something is happening, I'm just not sure if it's good or bad!

I'm taking 5mg of oral Vitamin B12 and a B-complex vitamin like I always do. I just ordered some ALA and Acetyl-L-Carnitine after poking around this forum a bit more. Maybe these things will help...

Has anyone gotten acupuncture for PN? Did it make you better or worse? I've heard it can go both ways and I'm nervous.

Thank you, all!

P.S. Reading this forum makes me feel like I'm not alone.
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Has anyone gotten acupuncture for PN? Did it make you better or worse? I've heard it can go both ways and I'm nervous.
Yes, yes, and yes, which is understandable. The question/topic comes up here fairly regularly—probably a few times a year. Here are some of the more recent discussions; you can find more via the Search facility:

Acupuncture & PN

Acupuncture

How Acupuncture works: Hope for us! RIBOSE

Acupuncture..??

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/se...ry=acupuncture

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Thank you for your response, Dr. Smith.

I guess I should have mentioned that I checked out those links prior to posting, and from the previous posts I gather that according to xyz studies, acupuncture can be helpful, though mostly indirectly by decreasing pain and inflammation in general. Posters who have experience with acupuncture tended to say it didn't work for them, or people they knew.

I guess I was hoping to connect with someone who had a similar experience where acupuncture seems to be activating my PN on a low level. Does this mean that I'm in the 76% for whom acupuncture is helpful, or the 10% for whom acupuncture aggravates PN? I just can't tell if this is the nerves healing, or yelling at me to stop going to acupuncture. 3 sessions seems too early to stop, but these electrical zaps and pricks would be much more bearable if I was convinced they were representative of healing.

Maybe I should just stick to my vitamins and supplements...
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these electrical zaps and pricks would be much more bearable if I was convinced they were representative of healing.

Maybe I should just stick to my vitamins and supplements...
I'm not sure that the zaps and pricks are representative of anything except neuropathy. FWIW, I've had excellent results (luck?) using R-Lipoic Acid for the burning pain. After finding this, I added Pantothenic Acid, and have had considerable (~80-90%) reduction in the zaps and pricks (jabs).

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Dr Smith you mentioned the other acid you take ...with the link this mentions use for those with diabetes do you have this? just wondering if should try
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Dr Smith you mentioned the other acid you take ...with the link this mentions use for those with diabetes do you have this?
Good question. I've been tested multiple times by multiple doctors, and the results are always negative, nevertheless, sugar and sugar alcohols exacerbate my PN, so I avoid them.

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Hi Dr. Smith,

What dosage when you started the R-Lipoic Acid and did you have to increase the dosage to get the same result the longer you used it and similarly as with the Pantothenic Acid (Vit B5)? Thanks, Yu Ping
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I started on 100 mg. of RLA/day and haven't needed any increase (3˝ yrs?) I tried increasing for a short time but there was no additional benefit, so I dropped back down to 100 mg.

Early on if I missed a day or stopped, the burning would come back. This week I just forgot to fill my vitamin tray and haven't taken any, but no burning (yet). I'll probably keep taking it anyway as it's a good antioxidant, and has other benefits.

Same with the B5 (250 mg/day), but I vary the dosage on that because I also take it for other reasons than PN.

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For the record: I tried acupuncture for a good 3 months, once and sometimes twice a week, ending just this past December. I also had cupping on a weekly basis, fwiw, which made me look as though I'd come in second in a squid fight.

I noted no changes good or bad.

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This cyclical nature of your symptoms is puzzling. It is almost
similar to some parasite types of infections.

Where did you go that you needed the mefloquine treatment?

This drug is neurotoxic and no longer recommended for pretreatment of malaria. I looked on Drugcite.com and the
closest I could find in side effects was paresthesias, and they were low incidence...about 1%http://www.drugcite.com/?q=mefloquine

You can click on any category and it will open up with details.

Wiki has information about brain damage, from this drug, which may be permanent. If you have central pain/damage (in the brain), that may be why you don't respond to acupuncture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mefloquine

Drug damage is very sneaky.... and hard to prove.

Are your finger tips discolored when they hurt? Do they all hurt equally? There are two nerves that go down the arm.. pinky and ring finger are enervated by one...and the thumb, index and middle finger by the other.
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