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I am going to look into this in depth. It can be used internally, but mostly seems to be an insect deterrent.

Breathing the powder however would put silicon in the lungs, and that can be very bad, and lead to scleroderma as one other scenario.

But it looks like it may be absorbing some toxin from your GI tract.
Various clays are also used in treating certain diseases. Bentonite and fuller's earth are examples.

Dysbiosis is a common feature of our lives since antibiotics were invented. It is thought that Candida infects just more than 1/2 of the US population! So it figures that the FDA would take Kaolin (an absorptive clay) off the market! LOL
What happened is that products with Kaolin needed studies to remain OTC in the US = Kaopectate. But Pfizer wouldn't pay for this so sold its NAME to a company who put Bismuth subsalicylate in it...so Kaopectate is now the same as Pepto Bismol!

Anyway, I digress... there may be some reason the absorbent, is working for you, Karen. Either it is absorbing heavy metals from your GI tract or killing off some critter that was dumping byproducts into your system via the GI tract.

Just be careful with that powder and don't inhale it (maybe wear a mask when measuring it out).

As time passes, it would appear to me that you could eventually
not need it.

But you do win the award today for the 1st post on this topic. And perhaps maybe we will all benefit from it too!
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Dear Mrs. D thanks for coming by!

Also Dr. Smith - very funny name. You almost had me fooled. I can understand why you're like.... "Warning Wil Robinson ... Warning!" That's cool. Most would probably agree with you.

I am completely prepared for many to scoff and not believe me. To those I would say, guess your not in enough pain yet. I was worried, not primarily for PN anymore thanks to this site as I have mentioned, but that knee arthritis and heel spurs were going to cripple me soon; that was my desperation for trying it, as I stated.

Here's a sheet of frequently asked questions that explains why someone would take something that also kills bugs, the inhalation concern and why if it's so great you never heard of it before.

http://www.earthworkshealth.com/Diat...-Earth-FAQ.php

Here's one of my favorite quickie, "the gist of Diatomaceous Earth" on youtube; this guy is President of Earthworks, so yes he's selling something. But it's a good "explain it to me like Im a Kindergartner" speech.

Love that gritty, foggy water taste... that's because I know how Im gonna feel the rest of the day. I can't promise you it will help you, but if everything everyone else including doctors has promised you has failed, then it's something else and it's dirt cheap, pardon that pun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQn6GSHNzBE

Peace people and good luck to all of you... this thread aside, I hope you all find your way like I did!!! Happy St. Patty's day
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Karen I am so happy for you that you are doing good!! That is wonderful!! People like you give hope to others.

Very interesting topic, you never know what odd thing is waiting to be your miracle. Interesting.

Wanted to add, reading your link I read this:

Secondly, an unexpectedly dangerous compound to avoid is N-acetylcysteine (NAC), a high-priced product heavily recommended by alternative medical doctors and other health practitioners. NAC is a form of cysteine often recommended as a more powerful form of the much-needed amino acid L-cysteine or in lieu of glutathione, an antioxidant that is rarely effective in supplement form.66 Although dozens of journal articles support its short-term use as immunity booster and detoxifier, evidence is mounting of potential long-term harm. The NAC form of cysteine conceivably can poison vitalethine, a vital component needed to activate humoral immunity.67-69

Interesting, I wondered how safe NAC was long term
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Karen I am so happy for you that you are doing good!! That is wonderful!! People like you give hope to others.

Very interesting topic, you never know what odd thing is waiting to be your miracle. Interesting.

Stacy- was it you that told me about the Befiotamine? (spell?) Couldn't remember for sure. That kept me from being bed ridden three or four days a week. that was huge for me.
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Most people do fine with NAC. I have not had a problem. Good to build up Glutathione, lung health etc.

Yes, Benfotiamine has been very good for a lot of reasons along with the other supplements. I have used them a long time.
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Also guys, on day three of 1/3 teaspoon per day - I started packing up zip lock bags and sending it out to all friends and family to try.

My little brother had a serious heart attack at 39; he's had high cholesterol, hereditary, since the age of 7. He had to have a stint put in. Now he has two little babies, wife, mortgage, he's early 40's, 42 I think. I was really hopeful he would try it. He agreed to, I was very relieved because one of the main benefits ppl who use it talk about is the lowered cholesterol and cardiac issues.

Also, it helps you hold onto water like you did when you were younger. I do not mean bloating here. My skin looks fab!!! I look younger. I can't stop staring at the backs of my hands cause their not wrinkly anymore - Im 50. Also, I noticed my eyes felt better and better everyday when I woke up. My eyesight improved. I was using a 2.50 reading glasses, now down to a 2.0 ! I can't believe this stuff. See how I dont care what the naysayers say? Would you?

By day four, I was up to 3/4 teaspoon. I was at work and sitting at my desk - and I just said to myself - I feel like a million bucks!!!! And I do. I hope the same for you, whether you use "the mud" (as we affectionately call it even though there's really no dirt in there) or something else... flax seed maybe, Vitamin D, what have you!!!

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"the mud" (as we affectionately call it even though there's really no dirt in there) or something else...
Kitty litter is kitty litter.

Sorry, but I have a real problem with information gleaned from sources selling something. Too much puffery, weasel words, pseudo science, BS, etc....

The reason this stuff is used as a pesticide is
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Diatomaceous Earth is almost pure silica (with some beneficial trace minerals); under a microscope, it looks like shards of glass (glass is made from silica). On any beetle-type insect that has a carapace, like fleas and cockroaches, the DE works under the shell and punctures the body, which then dehydrates and the insect dies. DE is totally nontoxic. There is no buildup of tolerance like there is to poisons because the method of killing is PHYSICAL, not chemical.
http://lifehacker.com/5835163/kill-b...omaceous-earth
The stuff may be harmless to folks with healthy guts (GI tracts) but I have IBS, and know from experience that certain foods & supplements (e.g. psyllium) can be abrasive enough to cause a flare—bleeding—in my intestines.

I can't risk that again.

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I would have to agree Doc Smith - doesn't sound like it's for you. I have a touchy tummy too. Never been diagnosed with IBS. That's why I started so small, 1. to find out effect on neuropathy... 2. to minimize effect on tummy.

I did have some cramping the first night, but I'm prone to it. I took one Walmart generic Immodium ID (spell?). Didn't need one after that. I noticed if my intestine felt a bit crampy, or cramps threatened, the easiest and best thing to do was just drink a good sized glass of water, 6 oz. or so.. and that stopped it right quick. I know people talk about putting it in a glass of orange juice, but I use a good size glass of water with it. The first couple of days, it made me thirsty too, but I've been shriveling up on account of menopause so that didn't surprise me. The stuff is the bomb.

Best - I get to ride my bike everday again! Whoo Hoo!!! Doesn't get better than that in my little world!

I'm sure you'll find what works for you. May the force be with you!!!

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