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IH8PN 09-27-2016 05:08 AM

I bought some in time to beat the pending ban. I'll report back my experience.

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mrsD 10-02-2016 10:57 AM

Here is an update on the status of Kratom in the US.

Kratom Will Remain Legal for Days, Possibly Longer | US News

DEA defies senators’ appeal to reconsider ‘unprecedented’ kratom ban - The Washington Post

and here are some other recent articles about this:
Recent News - American Kratom Association

couchet 10-06-2016 11:51 AM

New member here. Would you be so kind as to forward to me a comparable online vendor for Kratom? I tried Coast line Kratom, but my card was declined as a possible fraud. Many thanks in advance!

IH8PN 10-12-2016 10:54 PM

Its been about 2 weeks since I received my first shipment of kratom so I wanted to share my experience.

First of all the impending DEA ban on kratom which was scheduled for October 1, 2017 has been postponed. A brief synopsis regarding that: They wanted to classify kratom as a schedule 1 substance which puts it inline with Heroin and MDMA as "dangerous drugs with no accepted medical use."

Ironically this just turned into a big time advertisement and many people who never heard of Kratom became curious and wanted to experiment. Couple that in with vendors trying to dump supply at discounts last minute and you have a whole new population of Kratom users.

I've tried countless prescription/non prescription drugs and supplements many of which had no affect on my symptoms so I was cautiously optimistic about trying Kratom.

Let me preface my stating that the following is my experience with Kratom and everybody will have their own unique interaction with the substance.

Low doses of Kratom (1-2 grams) felt like a "caffeine like buzz." No noticeable pain relief but I experienced a mildly jittery energy boost. Some people are able to use it for anxiety but I found it made me a little more anxious.

Moderate doses (3-5 grams) is where I began to feel pain relief. Kratom acts on opiod receptors and I'd compare the feeling to taking a low dose Vicodin/Norco. Pain was reduced 1-2 points on the 10 point scale, however all the side effects such as nausea and dizziness began to present.

Higher doses (5-7 grams) took on a form of sedation. Pain dropped 2-3 points, however I became very drowsy and "high" and wouldn't want to try to function in ways that required concentration or coordination.

Would I recommend Kratom. Absolutely. What do you have to loose? Maybe you spend $50 and it's not something that works for you. If you're like me money is not an issue when it comes to pain relief that will increase your quality of life.

I took 5 grams about 2 hours ago and it has definitely taken the edge of of my pain. At the same time it has left me at a loss for words at times trying to type this. It's not a miracle and it's not without it's drawbacks, but I'm glad I have it as a tool for coping under the right circumstances.

I'd be happy to answer any question either on this thread or through a PM. The only thing I won't do is post info about vendors on this thread. I don't want to take responsibility or promote any online vendors. Hope this is helpful.

pinkynose 10-13-2016 05:43 PM

I'd be interested in knowing which type you tried. Supposedly, like marijuana, different types are good for different things. Just like so many other people when I heard about the DEA ban I finally decided to try it. I got online but all the vendors that had been recommended were out of stock.
Quote:

Originally Posted by IH8PN (Post 1226294)
Its been about 2 weeks since I received my first shipment of kratom so I wanted to share my experience.

First of all the impending DEA ban on kratom which was scheduled for October 1, 2017 has been postponed. A brief synopsis regarding that: They wanted to classify kratom as a schedule 1 substance which puts it inline with Heroin and MDMA as "dangerous drugs with no accepted medical use."

Ironically this just turned into a big time advertisement and many people who never heard of Kratom became curious and wanted to experiment. Couple that in with vendors trying to dump supply at discounts last minute and you have a whole new population of Kratom users.

I've tried countless prescription/non prescription drugs and supplements many of which had no affect on my symptoms so I was cautiously optimistic about trying Kratom.

Let me preface my stating that the following is my experience with Kratom and everybody will have their own unique interaction with the substance.

Low doses of Kratom (1-2 grams) felt like a "caffeine like buzz." No noticeable pain relief but I experienced a mildly jittery energy boost. Some people are able to use it for anxiety but I found it made me a little more anxious.

Moderate doses (3-5 grams) is where I began to feel pain relief. Kratom acts on opiod receptors and I'd compare the feeling to taking a low dose Vicodin/Norco. Pain was reduced 1-2 points on the 10 point scale, however all the side effects such as nausea and dizziness began to present.

Higher doses (5-7 grams) took on a form of sedation. Pain dropped 2-3 points, however I became very drowsy and "high" and wouldn't want to try to function in ways that required concentration or coordination.

Would I recommend Kratom. Absolutely. What do you have to loose? Maybe you spend $50 and it's not something that works for you. If you're like me money is not an issue when it comes to pain relief that will increase your quality of life.

I took 5 grams about 2 hours ago and it has definitely taken the edge of of my pain. At the same time it has left me at a loss for words at times trying to type this. It's not a miracle and it's not without it's drawbacks, but I'm glad I have it as a tool for coping under the right circumstances.

I'd be happy to answer any question either on this thread or through a PM. The only thing I won't do is post info about vendors on this thread. I don't want to take responsibility or promote any online vendors. Hope this is helpful.


IH8PN 10-17-2016 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1226352)
I'd be interested in knowing which type you tried. Supposedly, like marijuana, different types are good for different things. Just like so many other people when I heard about the DEA ban I finally decided to try it. I got online but all the vendors that had been recommended were out of stock.

I experimented with the "red vein" which is supposed to be best for pain but causes more "sedation"

I also tried a little of the "green vein" which supposedly isn't as good for pain but allows for more energy.

I can't say I noticed a huge difference between the 2, but I'm still pretty new to kratom and experimenting with different doses.

Based on the general consensus I'd recommend the red if you are looking for pain relief.

pinkynose 12-10-2017 10:48 AM

Kratom works for me!
 
I've been using Kratom for the past 3 weeks to slowly wean off the Opioids the doctor put me on after my back surgery 16 months ago. Although the surgery did help my back and some of my symptoms, the burning in my legs remained chronic. I went to a pain management doctor recommended by my PC who is not a pill mill doctor. I thought it was to help me wean off the opioids, but instead, as I still had burning, he changed the way I took them and added another opioid to the mix.

SO, like I wrote I have been using kratom for the past 3 weeks to wean off these drugs and it is FABULOUS! I am down to half the amount of oxycodone and will take on the hydrocodone next. The best part is i have no burning with the Kratom (but I do have some with the opioids) and plenty of energy without feeling anxious. I am not promoting anything here, I am simply reporting what is working for me. Everyone is different as is the cause for our neuropathy. The neurologist still does not what causes mine.

Last, I did get my marijuana card and it is completely useless for me. The products sold at the dispensary in my state are either mostly THC or straight CBD. I am not interested in getting high, and the level of THC made it impossible for me to sleep at night. For those of you that have the same problem check out CBN for nighttime use. Some dispensaries carry it in pill form, patches or cream. Mine does not. It basically has the anti-inflammatory and pain relief properties of THC without getting you high. I would only use it at night to sleep if I had access.
carol

pinkynose 12-10-2017 10:52 AM

For me it's all in how you blend. I have done lots of research and joined different Kratom organizations to get a better understanding of what might be helpful for me.
Quote:

Originally Posted by IH8PN (Post 1226534)
I experimented with the "red vein" which is supposed to be best for pain but causes more "sedation"

I also tried a little of the "green vein" which supposedly isn't as good for pain but allows for more energy.

I can't say I noticed a huge difference between the 2, but I'm still pretty new to kratom and experimenting with different doses.

Based on the general consensus I'd recommend the red if you are looking for pain relief.


janieg 12-10-2017 09:00 PM

So wonderful that it's helping you! :hug:

What type did you find the best?

pinkynose 12-11-2017 06:25 PM

It's complicated!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janieg (Post 1255878)
So wonderful that it's helping you! :hug:

What type did you find the best?

I found for Pain, withdrawal from drugs, mood and anxiety the red strains generally are best. Most of them are sedating with the exception of Red Thai and Maeng Da. I take a mixture of 5 Reds from a vendor called "Relief Blend" that works well for me.

That being said, Yellow Borneo is probably my very favorite so far. It takes my burning away and gives me a nice clean focused kind of energy. I like to have both and to find them in one strain for me is awesome.

I've experimented with different greens, which are supposed to have the qualities of both Reds and Whites. I don't have a favorite yet. I have not experimented with any whites alone yet as I don't want to get too hyped up. I do have a blend called "energy blend" that has a white strain in it. I mix 1/8t energy blend with 1/4t relief blend and I do get a lot accomplished without feeling out of control, high or bad in any way.

The crazy thing about Kratom is if you take a small amount (I take about 1/4t-1/2t, never more that 1 t) you feel energized. If you take larger quantities it's sedating.

There are red strains that are especially good for nighttime and insomnia and by using them I've been able to cut back on my sleep meds. I'm going to try to wean off them after the opioids.

If you have any questions you know I'll be happy to answer them. :hug:
carol

caroline2 03-11-2018 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1255920)
I found for Pain, withdrawal from drugs, mood and anxiety the red strains generally are best. Most of them are sedating with the exception of Red Thai and Maeng Da. I take a mixture of 5 Reds from a vendor called "Relief Blend" that works well for me.

That being said, Yellow Borneo is probably my very favorite so far. It takes my burning away and gives me a nice clean focused kind of energy. I like to have both and to find them in one strain for me is awesome.

I've experimented with different greens, which are supposed to have the qualities of both Reds and Whites. I don't have a favorite yet. I have not experimented with any whites alone yet as I don't want to get too hyped up. I do have a blend called "energy blend" that has a white strain in it. I mix 1/8t energy blend with 1/4t relief blend and I do get a lot accomplished without feeling out of control, high or bad in any way.

The crazy thing about Kratom is if you take a small amount (I take about 1/4t-1/2t, never more that 1 t) you feel energized. If you take larger quantities it's sedating.

There are red strains that are especially good for nighttime and insomnia and by using them I've been able to cut back on my sleep meds. I'm going to try to wean off them after the opioids.

If you have any questions you know I'll be happy to answer them. :hug:
carol

Are you still taking Kratom...still the same blends.. Not the capsules. I bought some a couple yrs ago but threw it away due to the fear from the pharma world. I'd like to try again for pain.

Any issues with elevating blood pressure or constipation. Thanks...C

Magnolia~ 03-15-2018 10:26 PM

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me find quality Kratom. I tried to purchase from a site I found but the site would not take payment.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate this thread.I never heard of it until I came here.

Chemar 03-16-2018 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnolia~ (Post 1260315)
Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me find quality Kratom. I tried to purchase from a site I found but the site would not take payment.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate this thread.I never heard of it until I came here.

Hi
Please be aware of the recent FDA warnings and updates on the risks of using this product

FDA oversees destruction and recall of kratom products; and reiterates its concerns on risks associated with this opioid

**This may be the reason you were unable to complete your purchase?

caroline2 03-16-2018 02:57 PM

Magnolia, a person on another health group buys from this company, they have a toll free # and you could ask about payment.

Buy Kratom Capsules & Powder Online | kratom-k.com

This same person gave us this link. The Kratom Bible - A Complete Guide to Kratom | Enso Botanicals

I haven't decided whether to try it again or not. I just hope the ibuprofen isn't destroying other parts of my body.

Personally, I worry a lot about pharma FDA approved drugs. I've had damage from some. Best thoughts to you and hope you'll let us know IF you go to Kratom. C

Jomar 03-16-2018 04:56 PM

I would check out any products sources as best you can before purchasing..
Make sure provider is legit & reputable.. as with anything..

This might be helpful-
safe kratom providers - Google Search

chris85 03-17-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chemar (Post 1260345)
FYI chris85
Magnolia~ had mentioned they were unable to pay for kratom online.
I therefore posted the FDA link as that may be the reason why.
ie I was responding to a new member's question to try to provide them relevant info, not to discuss the merits of kratom or any other medication here

I understand, it's a reasonable point.

And mine was just that previous kratom users who could legally obtain kratom for chronic pain, now either have nothing or have moved onto often more dangerous substances.

I'm sure it was being abused by a minority of people, but it is fairly safe compared with other stuff they might be using. So the whole thing doesn't make much sense to me.

caroline2 03-17-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris85 (Post 1260363)
I understand, it's a reasonable point.

And mine was just that previous kratom users who could legally obtain kratom for chronic pain, now either have nothing or have moved onto often more dangerous substances.

I'm sure it was being abused by a minority of people, but it is fairly safe compared with other stuff they might be using. So the whole thing doesn't make much sense to me.

It so OFTEN boils down to money for pharma and their stockholders etc etc etc.

pinkynose 03-21-2018 05:05 PM

For me the most important thing I think about when purchasing Kratom is if the company tests their raw product for the widest variety of contaminants, including biologics, heavy metals, and pesticides. The company and staff also need to practice GMP (Good Manufactoring Practices.) A number of the companies are taking this much more seriously since the FDA's bad press. I personally feel the FDA's reports were all about the loss of revenue for Big Pharma with this plant. However, the fact that suppliers realize the future of the plant is somewhat dependent on them I would consider that to be the silver lining from the FDA's report.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 1260349)
I would check out any products sources as best you can before purchasing..
Make sure provider is legit & reputable.. as with anything..

This might be helpful-
safe kratom providers - Google Search


pinkynose 03-21-2018 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnolia~ (Post 1260315)
Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me find quality Kratom. I tried to purchase from a site I found but the site would not take payment.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate this thread.I never heard of it until I came here.

PM me and I will try to help. I'm not on often but I am making an effort to check my messages more often.

pinkynose 03-21-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caroline2 (Post 1260140)
Are you still taking Kratom...still the same blends.. Not the capsules. I bought some a couple yrs ago but threw it away due to the fear from the pharma world. I'd like to try again for pain.

Any issues with elevating blood pressure or constipation. Thanks...C

Yes Caroline I am still using Kratom. I use mostly green strains now which helps me with energy, mood and pain. I use certain reds in late afternoon or evening. My blood pressure is not elevated and I am not constipated. Some people do get constipated supposedly by taking reds. I also drink a lot of water which I always have. I had a complete blood work up done recently and my cholesterol was lower then usual and everything else was good. I’m sorry I hadn’t seen your PM. My granddaughter, son and dil were visiting for February and I’ve been very busy.

caroline2 03-21-2018 11:37 PM

Thanks I'll do more of my investigating as I believe I need to get off some of the ibuprofen I take...worry about what it's doing to my insides.....C

Miss_D 06-29-2018 07:41 PM

Hello! I was wondering which vendor you get your keratom from and which strain I should take for severe neuropathy pain?

pinkynose 06-30-2018 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss_D (Post 1264498)
Hello! I was wondering which vendor you get your keratom from and which strain I should take for severe neuropathy pain?

Hi Miss_D
I joined a number of facebook groups and also The American Kratom Association and did some investigating. I used trial and error but what is most important to me is the vendor gets their kratom tested for various contaminates. I could steer you to what I consider the better groups. If you posted your question in a group there would be members that would respond, just like here. My neuropathy pain isn't usually severe, it's chronic. Everyone is different so what I use may not work for you.

Generally Red strains are considered the best for pain. At this point I find green strains work better for my nerve pain. I would be happy to give you more information, including vendor info that I use through a PM.
Carol

jmwaldhelm 12-30-2020 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balanchine (Post 1104432)
I read about Kratom for the first time only recently, did some reading and youtube viewing and ordered some. I've now tried it twice.

I should preface my comments by saying that I don't have pain, just increasing numbness and tingling. I also some years back had cancer and was on Oxycodone and Fentanyl during and after radiation treatment. So I have experience with opiods.

My first impressions are that Kratom is not dissimilar to a mild version of an opiod. I have a fairly high tolerance level for the latter, which probably mitigates the effect for me. It's definitely pleasant though. Euphoria, a feeling of well-being, a general full body sensation that, were I in pain, would probably help. It did definitely take my mind off the annoying tingly sensation in my hands and arms for a few hours, so that by itself is a good thing.

I've read that it can be addicting so I don't plan on using it every day or even more than a time or two a week. But as a little vacation from discomfort it's now in my toolbag. People who are truly agonized from PN would benefit, imho. Naturally you have to take your own situation into account before experimenting.

Hello,

I am new to this site so having a bit of trouble navigating around at present.

Is Kratom effective for helping with peripheral neuropathy pain?

Any particular strains better than others?

Does it make a difference using capsules or powder?

Thanks!

Chemar 12-30-2020 04:38 PM

Just leaving this 2019 FDA warning about kratom here FYI

FDA and Kratom | FDA


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