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canagirl 07-02-2015 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by icelander (Post 1152361)
Good strains of high CBD medical cannabis do not impair me to any great degree. Mostly anxiety and pain relief. They are lower in THC and high in CBDs. I use it every night and it took me from 2 hours of poor sleep to 8 hours of fairly decent sleep even when in pain.

Hi

I'm in the process of getting my marihuana liscence. I was told at the clinic that high cbd and no or low thc strains don't work On pain. Have u found that it does work on neuropathic pain? Do u smoke, vaporize or do edibles?

icelander 07-02-2015 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by canagirl (Post 1152423)
Hi

I'm in the process of getting my marihuana liscence. I was told at the clinic that high cbd and no or low thc strains don't work On pain. Have u found that it does work on neuropathic pain? Do u smoke, vaporize or do edibles?
What pray tell do they work on?

https://www.leafly.com/news/strains/...ns-from-israel

read the descriptions where it says for pain.

I vape and do edibles. The grow was fun and I was impressed with the yield. I was guided by a commercial grower however.

Mostly the cbd cannabis I use for serious insomnia issues. It's really worked. And even now when my pain can be bad at night I can still manage 4 or 5 hours. That's better than I did when not in pain before this nasty disease.

canagirl 07-02-2015 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by icelander (Post 1152429)
What pray tell do they work on?

https://www.leafly.com/news/strains/...ns-from-israel

read the descriptions where it says for pain.

I vape and do edibles. The grow was fun and I was impressed with the yield. I was guided by a commercial grower however.

Mostly the cbd cannabis I use for serious insomnia issues. It's really worked. And even now when my pain can be bad at night I can still manage 4 or 5 hours. That's better than I did when not in pain before this nasty disease.
Well that's good to hear. I was very nervous about trying it and specifically asked for no or low thc because I did not want to be impaired. That is when they told me that strains with a medium to higher thc concentration are what work well on neuropathic pain. They told me to start with the low thc high cbd strain to get used to doing it and that it would be useful to help lower my anxiety and maybe help me sleep. Ill be so happy if they do work on my pain like it does on yours! Thanks for the info :)

icelander 07-02-2015 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by canagirl (Post 1152438)
Well that's good to hear. I was very nervous about trying it and specifically asked for no or low thc because I did not want to be impaired. That is when they told me that strains with a medium to higher thc concentration are what work well on neuropathic pain. They told me to start with the low thc high cbd strain to get used to doing it and that it would be useful to help lower my anxiety and maybe help me sleep. Ill be so happy if they do work on my pain like it does on yours! Thanks for the info :)
This is different than how I interpreted your earlier statements. I believe you said that they said cbds did not work on pain. That's different then them saying the balance between thc and cbd is important. I'd go with their recommendations.

And you will get used to being "impaired" fairly rapidly. I rarely feel stoned after vaping or eating. I don't feel hardly anything and that's what I was after sort of.

Balanchine 07-02-2015 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by janieg (Post 1152297)
Well, let me tell you about last night.

When I went to bed, I wasn't feeling terribly bad. I hadn't had a great day, but I wasn't burning too badly by the time I went to bed. My feet were vibrating like crazy and cramping, though, so I cut a lidocaine patch in half and slapped them on my feet to see if that would calm them down.

Once I got in bed, though, my lower back was killing me as sometimes happen. I had really bad sciatic pain, and no matter what position I got in, I couldn't stop it. I was fine if I stood up. I walked around a bit and did some exercises, but it didn't help. I thought it was going be one those horrible nights until I decided to try the kratom. I wasn't sure it was going to help with this extreme pain since the shooting neuropathic pain seemed to break through last time, but it was worth a shot.

I woke up 9 hours later and don't remember waking up once during the night. Usually something wakes me up...like a foot cramp...but I don't think I woke up at all. I can't tell you how good I feel today. I hadn't slept well for a few nights in a row, and I needed that! :D
Janie, that's great to hear. I don't think I've slept for 9 hours since I was 18!

Kratom helps so many people. I have a cousin I've recently turned on to the stuff, she has constant pain from serious pneumonia that nearly killed her a few years ago, plus bad sleep issues... and she's getting relief on both. I hope it continues to help you!

janieg 07-03-2015 08:06 AM
Icelander and Balanchine,

I really appreciate all your help with this as it's such a relief knowing I have some recourse when things get really bad. I intend on using it for "special occasions" and not on a regular basis.

When I went to bad last night after such a good night's sleep the night before, I was worried sleep wouldn't come easily, but it did. I wasn't in much discomfort on any front...my feet were ok, my back wasn't bad, no burning at all...and I drifted off to sleep on my own without having to do anything for pain.

Lest I forget my woes, though, I was woken up at 5:53 a.m. by a frog croaking out my bedroom window and my back was killing me. Never got back to sleep after. Equalizing karma. :rolleyes:

KnowNothingJon 07-03-2015 11:12 AM
I wish I couldn't relate. I was up and down all night. It was like a pain version of this Pearl Jam lyric from Given To Fly- "A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw/ delivered him wings (pain) hey look at me now".


If Kratom can get you 1 and some nights relief I'd suggest thinking about what other tool in the chest can compensate for it.

I hope you find a good pattern. Sleep is so crucial. I was super zombified for a long time as my sleep scgedule was really awful. For whatever reason, I believe I am becoming accustomed to where I am, I am able to sleep 4 instead of 2 hours on bad nights.

Good luck,
Jon

madisongrrl 07-03-2015 12:57 PM
This was a great thread! And of course, I can't get this in Wisconsin.....sigh.

janieg 07-03-2015 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1152571)
This was a great thread! And of course, I can't get this in Wisconsin.....sigh.
Sorry to hear that. I didn't realize that it might be illegal in some states, but am not surprised.

Here's a map of where it's legal and illegal if it helps anyone:

http://speciosa.org/kratom-legality-map/

_______

Balanchine 07-03-2015 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by madisongrrl (Post 1152571)
This was a great thread! And of course, I can't get this in Wisconsin.....sigh.
If you have a good friend or relative in another state who's willing to get it for you, it's very easy to order online and then send in a plain brown wrapper, so to speak. I doubt there'd be any issues with that but of course this is just my non-legal opinion!


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