Well, I did it, ordered 2 oz of a red Kratom and should have it by early next week. We'll see how that works with chronic MEDIUM pain. I'd appreciate LOW pain.

Best wishes on positive results, Caroline.

The first small sample I got was Red Indo that did indeed help the pain and had a sedating effect. When it was time to re-order, though, I went with another vendor who was more mainstream and well-reviewed, and got their Red Indo.
I used the new stuff twice, and both times, I had trouble getting asleep. I need to try it again just in case there was something else going on causing the sleep issues.

That aside, I do think it helps with pain nicely.

I'm going to start with 1/4 tsp a couple times per day and NOT take any late in day. I sleep good now with my sleep combo, and don't want to mess that up. I bought from Amazing Kratom. A nice shift would be appreciated.

I forgot to ask IF Kratom is constipating. One member on the other group said yes somewhat but not like opiates!!! Have you who take it here found it constipating. I was concerned about elevating BP and forgot about the constipation side of things. That's what I don't need. I work hard as it is to keep things moving good. Thanks.

Caroline,

Here is a good site which seems to be one of the few which addresses the few side effects in a matter-of-fact way.

http://ensobotanicals.com/kratom-side-effects/

Dave.

Ok, a few general notes from someone who's tried most of the strains (there are sub-varieties of the main red-green-white strains that are mainly marketing imo).

1. Reds are more sedating than greens, which are in turn more sedating than whites -- true, more or less; but this is very individualistic, and even changes over time... with me at least.

2. Kratom is constipating -- true; no way to avoid this in my experience; whether it's more so than pharmaceutical opiods is open to debate.

3. Kratom causes insomnia -- true for me; sometimes the reds less so than the greens and whites, but I haven't found a way to avoid it except to limit your intake to earlier in the day and/or go with whatever other sleep aids you like (e.g. 3 mg of Melatonin) I should add that my brother is also a kratom user and reports no insomnia issues.

As always I'm available via PM for anything else I can tell anyone.

Oh, this is going to be a game changer for me thinking about this more. I can't or won't take a chance on backing up. Been there and very painful. So wish I had thought of this before I ordered but I'll consider using some in my topicals and mix it in and rub on joints. Good thing I didn't spend a lot. I have some tylenol 3 that I can't take so break these up in my topicals and same for Mobic which I can't take. Too bad. Thanks all. C

Hi Janieg,

I'm considering getting some to treat my SFN pain. If you don't mind sharing how does one ingest it?

Thank you,

Cliffman :)

Cliffman, please rethink this for yourself.

Anyone using a blood thinner has to be very careful about
plant derived extracts. It is unlikely that Kratom was studied by the drug companies that make the various blood thinners.

I would venture if you even asked your Doctor, you'd get a negative response. Kratom is not well known in the medical community.

Too many "unknowns" for you to consider, IMO. You are still in a rather fragile medical state, following your stents.