This website has data and stats about
Osteoporosis across the world:

Www.iofbonehealth.org

http://www.iofbonehealth.org/facts-statistics

Very interesting reading!

@beatle-- if you do not eat meat I'd
Suggest you get carnitine levels tested.
You could be low in this because of your
Diet.
Another amino acid low in vegans is
Methionine-- this one is involved in
methylation chemistry which is a
weak point for you as well.

Low carnitine impacts mitochondrial energy
production.

Here is a statement from http://www.iofbonehealth.org/facts-statistics that is typical of our broken way of thinking of health in this country:

"Fruit and vegetable intake was positively associated with bone density in a study in men and women. The exact components of fruits and vegetables which may confer a benefit to bone are still to be clarified (121,122)."

The thinking is that if we could just isolate the components in fruits and vegetables that are good for us, we could put those components in pills, then everyone could take them and we'd all be healthy. It just doesn't work like that. It is the combination of the thousands of chemical compounds in the fruits and vegetables that lead to health, not just a few "components." And it doesn't matter which components benefit us, how about we just eat the fruits and vegetables? It makes me sick.
Ron

I took that statement as a positive one.... not one to become angry about.

The facts are that many veggies contain potassium, magnesium, calcium, vitamin K, beta carotene, various luteins, and many other things.

But for specific osteoporosis benefits, Vit K and magnesium and
calcium are already known to aid with bone health.

Thanks as always Mrs. D.

I do consume a little bit of dairy: cheese, yogurt and ice cream.

I also take a carnitine supplement but shoot for low methionine as it is my understanding that it is linked to cancer prevention and a a longer life.

I am going to check out Iofbonehealth now. Thanks again

Methionine makes up SAMe... which is the main methyl transporter in our bodies. No SAM and no neurotransmitters, poor liver enzymes and poor joints with inflammation.

With methionine... you need some.... just not oodles of it.
Most cancers feed on nutrients.

If resist meat.... at least eat eggs.
Good protein nutrition was listed as a positive effect on bone density on that site.

I want to be as flexible as possible (accidental pun) but I cannot eat eggs. Are there other sources? How about cheese?

Have you considered taking Strontium? Both Amazon and iHerb now offer a variety of brands. They've been using it in Europe for a long time with much success for osteoporosis.

When I was diagnosed with osteoporosis a number of years ago, I took several of the prescription drugs, but they all disagreed with me. I researched the internet and found Strontium. The first year I took it, my bone density increased over 9%--my doctor couldn't believe it. Latter increases were not this dramatic, but I did get my bones back to the normal range. You cannot take it at the same time as calcium because they use the same receptors; however, this wouldn't be a problem for you as you don't take calcium anyway. At the time I looked into it, Doctors Best was the only brand available; now both Amazon and iHerb offer a variety of brands.

Well...eggs are germinal foods. With so many nutrients,choline and trace minerals, enough to grow and start a new life.

Just about every mammal eats eggs in the wild. Other birds eat eggs, snakes, etc. Are you allergic or just hate them?

Some meat .... a little one serving a day, would help get you the methionine. Other options are amino acid supplements.

Use this handy tool to determine how much you need daily:
http://www.globalrph.com/aminoacid-rda.htm

This site gives nutritional data on many foods:
this is for one whole egg:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...products/127/2

You can look up what you need to eat and see what it provides.
The upper left gives serving size.

Mrs. D – I've been a vegan for so long (other than the limited dairy) that now it would be too difficult to consume meat products. I can eat a cookie or other items that contain eggs but I cannot eat them on their own or an omelette, etc., nothing like that. Could I take a choline supplement?

I used the online tool and it looks like I need 1295.8 mg of methionine + cysteine.


Joano - I could not be more confused about supplements for bones. I've looked into them and there are quite a few available: strontium, Biosil, and now Sytrinol (Nobiletin) aka citrus pith and others. All have studies to back them but why are they not more popular?

Also, I purchased the Doctors Best Strontium and subsequently ran across this article which caused me to worry about taking it:
http://www.news-medical.net/news/201...an-Agency.aspx

I am a true believer in supplements but which one?

Choline is for building and repairing cell membranes and receptors. Not many foods are as high in choline as eggs.
You can take it in a supplement. Some multivitamins now have it added (mostly children's.)

So you can get a quality supplement for your methionine.
Vegans have to be really careful... they get low in Omega 3's too.

With all that Nexium you may not have any acid in your stomach to break the meat down anymore.
So supplements may be the only way to go for you now.