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Old 05-29-2015, 08:27 AM #1
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I just noticed in one of your new posts.... that you are an artist?

May I ask what you do and what you use?
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Have you had your iron level checked recently? My doctor was quick to blame vertigo/dizziness on the neuropathy. I think sometimes when we have something like this it's hard for the doctors to look past it and they forget the simple basic things.
In my case my iron was extremely low. I noticed a huge improvement in my vertigo/dizziness symptoms after a few months on iron supplements.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:03 AM #3
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It's so strange how every doctor has such different opinions in their treatment plans. In my case I was given IVIG, plasma exchange and rituxin, the IVIG was considered first line and least dangerous. The immune suppressors (imuran, cytoxin etc) were considered the "big guns" in the opinions of all the doctors I saw.
Well that is interesting Northerngal. I am guessing you aren't in the UK? For my body the drugs I've tried so far eg Sulfasalazine, methotrexate (both oral and injectable), Hydroxychloraquine and then Imuran have certainly been big guns!

And many RA friends have tried and failed to tolerate or improve on these first line disease modifying antirheumatic drugs and yet have tolerated and improved with the biologics further down the line.

So despite the doctors saying "big gun" in terms of tolerance what they actually mean is big gun in terms of expense to the NHS. I'm sure the same cost indications generally apply all over the world though. So maybe it is just the term "big gun" which is used properly wherever you are ie big gun to the body's tolerance levels rather than big gun to the tax payer/ health insurance companies!? Mat x
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I was two weeks into taking Azathioprine/ Imuran when the abdominal issues kicked off. I came off it while in hospital and then tried, after a two week break to restart last Wednesday. I had a strong instinct that it was the culprit for the abdominal pain even though my pancreas and liver tests showed nothing untoward. I am booked in for a Cholecystectomy (gallbladder removal by keyhole surgery) in early July.

So I ended up with such terrible vomiting and pain an hour after taking the
Imuran last week that the doctor had to come to my house and inject diamorphine and anti emetic in the bottom!

Even then my doctors didn't want to blame Imuran as my monitoring bloods had been okay and my CRP was down to 6.7 but ESR slowly continuing to rise so RA/ inflammatory process was out of control. The peripheral neuropathy and jaw pain were the worst they have ever been to date and stomach issues had eased.

All the while I felt exhausted and dizzy to the point of unable to walk downstairs let alone work or help my son with exam preps or my husband with cooking or housework.

So I agreed with some trepidation to take Imuran again the next day and within about four hours was doubled up with the original pain. No vomiting this time. All night my entire body was gripped with one sort of pain or another - only the top of my head was exempt!

Next day the stomach pain eased and I decided this was the end for me and Imuran, whatever the doctors said, so I took my prescribed cocktail of Tramadol, Paracetamol, Ranitidine and newly reintroduced Codeine and went to sleep. When I woke I felt fuzzy and the side of my face had gone numb and my entire left side was weak to the point of near paralysed. I thought I might be having a stroke so the doctor was called once more.

He agreed I should stay off Imuran and felt I might be suffering from understandable anxiety with these multiple symptoms but had me re-admitted to hospital - this time for a possible stroke so I was under a medical consultant rather than the surgeon. And this is a tiny community hospital in a remote part of Scotland so the chances of finding anyone to unravel my complex case wasn't very good.

But I hit the jackpot at last and was seen by a consultant nephrologist who really knew her stuff. She kept me in under watchful gaze for five nights having immediately recognised that this wasn't a stroke but something far more strange. My CRP was up at 160 and my ESR had risen into the 70s and yet no sign of infection or visible inflammation at all - just a moderately raised white blood cell count and platelets and amylase and blood in urine - which they felt could be a mixture my reaction to Imuran and constipation from Codeine. I was put on proper doses of laxative for this. By Monday morning the conclusion she and another locum consultant came to was that the gallbladder, Imuran, constipation etc were all issues that had distracted from the main problem - which is my autoimmunity is presently soaring, unchecked.

Sorry this is so very long but I know that some of you have followed my story and would be very grateful for your advice on what to focus on with the neurologist under these circumstances.
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Oh No !!! So very sorry to read your story. Note that I have copied part of what you wrote; this is because of my history with Imuran.

Several years ago I took Imuran for one of my other health conditons/diseases/whatver you want to call it - which is Myasthenia Gravis, also known to some as MG.

The side effect I had from Imuran was acute pancreatitis. I became SEVERELY ill. SEVERELY. No details needed for this group. Note that acute pancreatitis is also a recognized possible side effect of Imuran.

When I became so out of sight ill, I was taken off Imuran; however remained on steroid (prednisone) therapy for the MG, and eventually I started taking Cellcept.

I now have chronic pancreatitis; occasional bouts. Chronic pancreatis can occur after one has an attack of Acute Pancreatitis. It is painful and exacerbates my myasthenia gravis weakness. I am monitored constantly for other potential issues related to this problem.

By the way; a disclaimer; I am not a drinker. Well - occasionally, in the past, perhaps I drank once or twice a year - at a wedding, and that was only a sip from a drink with alcohol. I say this because pancreatitis and neuropathy can often be the result of heavy (alcoholic type) drinking, and alcohol has never been one of my favorite beverages. Also, MG does not do well with alcohol.

I am not in the medical profession; but I would say to you, if you were my family or friend, that you might highly consider avoiding Imuran!!!

My heart goes out to you; I truly understand having numerous complicated and very painful and life-changing and life challenging health issues.

Stay on track, keep persistent in trying to get answers and keep as positive an attitude as you can. Sigh......I know that can be difficult.

How I do wish and hope that I or we or the doctors or Someone in the Universe could soon ease or take your pain away completely.

Good luck.
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Hi! I have just joined this post and totally understand what you are going through! I have RRMS and Dysautonomia and possibly POTS, also Reactive a Hypoglycaemia and glucose intolerant! Oh and brain damage left side front lobe and osteoarthritis, think I have finished that bit now! Always hard to remember all of it and adding a lot all the time! I understand the pain, I get neuropathic pain in my legs every day around the same time! I haven't got a clue what it's related to, MS or POTS? I take oxycodone/naloxone slow release tablets as I became resistant to tramadol! Ended up referred to pain management by my GP! Best thing he ever did! Pain free except for this damn leg pain in the evenings and the pain causes severe fatigue! I am on Lanzoprazole for my tummy, and that helps loads, just going through a bowel blockage at the moment and got it hurts! And that caused a bladder infection band ended up at urgent care last week! Gosh I am a mess, it's official! On your MRI does it show lesions? Light white dots? That's MS and would cause the symptoms you have or fibromyalgia? All auto immune, if you want to chat feel free! I understand your pain! XxX


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Hi Loupy,

How ya doing? Nice that you have found us, but a shame that you have need to be here in the first place.

With your various issues you will fit in, and be afforded a warm welcome, across many of our Forums.

As with your offer, any time you want to talk about anything I am always about.

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I am still recovering from my bowel block and kidney infection! Sleep problems and the rest. Just resting at the moment with a doctors appointment next week to sort all this out, see if there are other things I need or could be doing to sort myself out! But happy sitting about on my iPad, chatting on Facebook and stuff xx


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