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mrsD 07-02-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by icelander (Post 1152381)
I'll volunteer to be a guinea pig. If it doesn't do anything I'll let you all know. I have no fear of mad cows.

Good luck to you.

icelander 07-02-2015 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1152390)
Good luck to you.

Thank you very much. At this point my life is a crap shoot anyway. I might as well go out as a benefit to scientific enquiry.

EnglishDave 07-02-2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icelander (Post 1152381)
I'll volunteer to be a guinea pig. If it doesn't do anything I'll let you all know. I have no fear of mad cows.

Icelander,

Find footage and first-hand medical reports of vCJD sufferers, then you would not be so flippant. I lived through the UK Outbreak when contaminated beef products entered our food supply. Deterioration and death is like UltraAlzheimer's, and can strike any age. There still may be cases from this first Outbreak yet to present.

Would you really risk this for minimal reward?

Dave.

mrsD 07-02-2015 06:12 PM

Here is another news worthy item about BSE and bovine supplements:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-71779387.html

icelander 07-02-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1152396)
Here is another news worthy item about BSE and bovine supplements:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-71779387.html

Do you by any chance know statistics for how many people in the US contract mad cow disease each year? I haven't heard much about people actually getting it. It seems extremely rare. I remember the big scare a few years back but nothing seemed to come of it.

EnglishDave 07-02-2015 06:45 PM

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cjd/detail_cjd.htm

This is the best site I found giving figures for all forms of CJD.

Dave.

madisongrrl 07-02-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1152373)

Every once in a while you can see news articles of nvCJD passed to patients by wrongful reuse of instruments. nvCJD is the human name for prion disease.

I do see this from time to time in my job. I just worked on a trial this week where someone passed away from that condition. Very sad. There is nothing you can really do to stop it and generally they die within a few months or even weeks after diagnosis.

mrsD 07-02-2015 06:52 PM

The problem with nvCJD is that it may lie low and wait to manifest. So that a connection to anything the person did or ate, could be years in the past.

Also diagnosis is often spotty...and can be confused with Alzheimer's. Typically, nvCJD is faster moving once it manifests, but if the person is older, it could still be thought to be Alzheimer's.

Dave is right, why risk this at all for a little known supplement with no real research behind it?

madisongrrl 07-02-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1152407)
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Dave is right, why risk this at all for a little known supplement with no real research behind it?

I just worry about supplements in general. I've "seen how the sausage is made" and these supplement companies run the spectrum for great to terrible.

When I did supplement testing, sometimes there would be no compound contained within the sample!!! These companies will buy cheap, adulterated compounds from China and try to make a supplement out of it....then they are shocked and angry that there is nothing in their newly formulated product. And some of these companies are so fantastic, if they offered me a job that I'd jump at the chance to work there.

It's really hard to vet some of this stuff out to find the quality products without tearing a large hole in your wallet.

caroline2 07-02-2015 07:54 PM

I worry more about all the drugs and deaths from them, one report from 2010, mentioned 100,000 from drug/interactions.. I'm not worried about mad cow, it never enters my mind. I'm going to take these 2 for three months and maybe go off and see if the burning returns....

I've been taking supps for over 25 yrs and doing fine on my supps. To each his own, it's true... Thanks all.


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