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Really? 3 mcgs a day would be enough for some people? Jarrett knows I'm kidding, because I knew he didn't mean to type 3 mcgs. But in any B-12 bottle (you know, the ones in the stores), the minimum amount I've ever seen is 50 mcgs.

I thought 3 mcgs would amount to taking nothing at all.

Wow, I just learned something.

Anyway, I'm taking the 5000 in the morning AND NOW SO IS ALAN!!!

He wanted to start taking them and he started two days ago.

I see so much improvement in my burning, I can't begin to tell you.

Thank God. Now maybe it's the weather, my weight loss, who the hell knows, and who on earth cares. I will take my B-12 for the rest of my life (or as long as I can afford it
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If a person does not malabsorb, more than 3 mcg will be absorbed from the usual (not vegan) diet. And if that person has become low because of years of vegan diet, overgrowth of bacteria, or a parasite of another type, the 3mcg per day would help them rebuild stores after the cause of malabsorption has been removed. It would be helpful, but I would prefer to see them rebuild faster with a higher dose.

If a person malabsorbs from food due to too little stomach acid, B12 can still be absorbed just fine from a supplement. That person too could prevent deficiency or rebuild stores with small daily doses of B12 (even 3 mcg). However, that would not be a good idea, because many of those will progress to severe malabsorption, and then they would need much larger doses. [B]So, that is why 1000 mcg is recommended for anyone who has been shown to or might malabsorb. A person who malabsorbs severely may get only about 10 mcg out of 1000 mcg dose.

There are many other scenarios. But, for a person without any symptoms, a regular multi-vitamin containing 3 mcg B12 can be a good insurance policy. If they develop any symptoms or get to be about 50, I would hope they would take a lot more.

Under most circumstances, I think 50 mcg is a pretty silly dose. People who don't malabsorb shouldn't need it, and people who malabsorb severely won't get anything out of it.

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I think I will give you a new title.

Queen of the B-12.

You most certainly know your stuff.

I learn from you every day.

Thanks so much.

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I think I will give you a new title.

Queen of the B-12.

You most certainly know your stuff.

I learn from you every day.

Thanks so much.

Melody
I agree! I think we should be calling Rose The Queen.
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Hellooooooo Barbara!!!!!

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I was wondering if the b12 supplement could be causing some of my dizzy and nausea. Sometimes I feel it does and before this my b12 was high at between 1500-2000 the blood results. Thank you.
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If a person does not malabsorb, more than 3 mcg will be absorbed from the usual (not vegan) diet. And if that person has become low because of years of vegan diet, overgrowth of bacteria, or a parasite of another type, the 3mcg per day would help them rebuild stores after the cause of malabsorption has been removed. It would be helpful, but I would prefer to see them rebuild faster with a higher dose.

If a person malabsorbs from food due to too little stomach acid, B12 can still be absorbed just fine from a supplement. That person too could prevent deficiency or rebuild stores with small daily doses of B12 (even 3 mcg). However, that would not be a good idea, because many of those will progress to severe malabsorption, and then they would need much larger doses. [B]So, that is why 1000 mcg is recommended for anyone who has been shown to or might malabsorb. A person who malabsorbs severely may get only about 10 mcg out of 1000 mcg dose.

There are many other scenarios. But, for a person without any symptoms, a regular multi-vitamin containing 3 mcg B12 can be a good insurance policy. If they develop any symptoms or get to be about 50, I would hope they would take a lot more.

Under most circumstances, I think 50 mcg is a pretty silly dose. People who don't malabsorb shouldn't need it, and people who malabsorb severely won't get anything out of it.

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Just so you know, and I did tell Mel, I mistyped... It's 3mgs (3000mcg) a day at least cause there are much smaller amounts in the two B-complexes I also take. I can spell, etc, however my fingers have a mind of their own.
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Rose:

Really? 3 mcgs a day would be enough for some people? Jarrett knows I'm kidding, because I knew he didn't mean to type 3 mcgs. But in any B-12 bottle (you know, the ones in the stores), the minimum amount I've ever seen is 50 mcgs.

I thought 3 mcgs would amount to taking nothing at all.

Wow, I just learned something.

Anyway, I'm taking the 5000 in the morning AND NOW SO IS ALAN!!!

He wanted to start taking them and he started two days ago.

I see so much improvement in my burning, I can't begin to tell you.

Thank God. Now maybe it's the weather, my weight loss, who the hell knows, and who on earth cares. I will take my B-12 for the rest of my life (or as long as I can afford it
Oops! I mistyped. I'm glad you caught that! That should have been mgs not mcg. *snerk*

I hope Alan sees some good results too. Wouldn't that be something? I think for most of us the goal is to decrease or eliminate the pain. There doesn't seem to be a cure according to doctors in most cases unless the PN is a direct result of a lack of B-12 but there are cases where nerve damage is actually being reversed and healed. That's the #1 goal if it's possible. We've all been told we have permanent damage. I no longer believe that the damage *is* permanent in all cases.
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Rose:

Really? 3 mcgs a day would be enough for some people? Jarrett knows I'm kidding, because I knew he didn't mean to type 3 mcgs. But in any B-12 bottle (you know, the ones in the stores), the minimum amount I've ever seen is 50 mcgs.

I thought 3 mcgs would amount to taking nothing at all.

Wow, I just learned something.

Anyway, I'm taking the 5000 in the morning AND NOW SO IS ALAN!!!

He wanted to start taking them and he started two days ago.

I see so much improvement in my burning, I can't begin to tell you.

Thank God. Now maybe it's the weather, my weight loss, who the hell knows, and who on earth cares. I will take my B-12 for the rest of my life (or as long as I can afford it
He is a she...meaning me. And since I know you all much better now I can sign my posts (was taught not to do that as a safety issue but that's another story):

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