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So when do we decide that the cure is worse than the illness? ... Not all cancers may be like that but many doctors say they would never undergo many of the treatments they prescribe. IMO that's criminal behavior. There used to be a thing called the hippocratic oath but that has turned into the hypocrisy oath.
My cancer was very borderline whether I needed chemo at all.

If I had it all to do over again, I probably wouldn't do the chemo.

Here's an interesting story of people who opted out of medicine and subsequently lived until their 90's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/ma...nted=all&_r=2&
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My cancer was very borderline whether I needed chemo at all.

If I had it all to do over again, I probably wouldn't do the chemo.

Here's an interesting story of people who opted out of medicine and subsequently lived until their 90's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/ma...nted=all&_r=2&
That's quite interesting. I've become convinced through experience that lifestyle and emotions are BIG players in health. Living a simple and stress free life promotes joy and healing IMO. We have lost that skill in this country of fast cars, watches, bills and mortgages, computers and TV etc. Look at the faces on the street. STRESS is screaming out from their faces. And look at us here, stressed and feeling like we are in a maze to find some help. Doctors are suspect and the big Pharma that owns them and tells them what to think and do by basically bribing them. I guess I'm on a rant.

However I didn't just figure this out yesterday. Now I'm in the system and they want to throw everything at me. I do my own research and I've refused 80% of their suggestions. Besides neuropathy I have something that is causing severe and somewhat rapid weight loss. I have refused all invasive investigation into the cause. I read the possible side effects and I couldn't live with them. I see the phrase "small but significant" when it comes to possible hellish side effects or errors. I'm not risking that as it doesn't hurt to this point in time. Neuropathy hurts! I'm fine dying without much pain as opposed to living with lots of pain for the rest of my limited existence. And self delivery is never out of the question but that is another road filled with misinformation and something one must judiciously study to be successful at. Life is always challenging at least in a culture such as this.

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Now I'm in the system and they want to throw everything at me. I do my own research and I've refused 80% of their suggestions. Besides neuropathy I have something that is causing severe and somewhat rapid weight loss. I have refused all invasive investigation into the cause. I read the possible side effects and I couldn't live with them.
Despite all that is happening to you, you sound quite astute and strong. Sounds like you are really taking charge of your healing.

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Despite all that is happening to you, you sound quite astute and strong. Sounds like you are really taking charge of your healing.

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Thank you. I have. I'm taking charge of every aspect of my life now. Even possibly when and how I leave it. I want this to be my life not someone else's drama in which I'm not playing the leading role.
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Thank you. I have. I'm taking charge of every aspect of my life now. Even possibly when and how I leave it. I want this to be my life not someone else's drama in which I'm not playing the leading role.
I think you have already won the real battle.
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I think you have already won the real battle.
Maybe, my life is scary stuff now. I'm just an animal and animals have a fear of death. But I'm working on it to the best of my skills and courage. In the courage area I'm no expert.
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That's quite interesting. I've become convinced through experience that lifestyle and emotions are BIG players in health. Living a simple and stress free life promotes joy and healing IMO. We have lost that skill in this country of fast cars, watches, bills and mortgages, computers and TV etc. Look at the faces on the street. STRESS is screaming out from their faces. And look at us here, stressed and feeling like we are in a maze to find some help. Doctors are suspect and the big Pharma that owns them and tells them what to think and do by basically bribing them. I guess I'm on a rant.

However I didn't just figure this out yesterday. Now I'm in the system and they want to throw everything at me. I do my own research and I've refused 80% of their suggestions. Besides neuropathy I have something that is causing severe and somewhat rapid weight loss. I have refused all invasive investigation into the cause. I read the possible side effects and I couldn't live with them. I see the phrase "small but significant" when it comes to possible hellish side effects or errors. I'm not risking that as it doesn't hurt to this point in time. Neuropathy hurts! I'm fine dying without much pain as opposed to living with lots of pain for the rest of my limited existence. And self delivery is never out of the question but that is another road filled with misinformation and something one must judiciously study to be successful at. Life is always challenging at least in a culture such as this.
There could be some truth to that article, but they dint display any scientific evidence and without medical examination on that 90yo we dont know if it was a truthful diagnosis on his part. When i said truth, there are rare individuals that fought off cancer, but they developed autoimmune as a result of it.
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