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Old 02-10-2016, 07:31 AM #1
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This is worth reading: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2367001/

As I've said before, I've had immense benefit from a keto diet based on the paleo principles, whatever the mechanisms of action actually are.


What I absolutely love about this is that after noting the benefits of a keto diet, the authors turn around and say something so stupid:

"As the underlying mechanisms become better understood, it will be possible to develop alternative strategies that produce similar or even improved therapeutic effects without the need for exposure to an unpalatable and unhealthy, high-fat diet."

Prejudice and anti-fat propaganda run deep! I do enjoy getting a laugh, sometimes a nervous one, from physicians when they ask me what I've done to improve my health and serum cholesterol levels and I respond "by introducing about 5-10 times the recommended daily fat intake, with lots of saturated and animal fats."

LOL.... so basically the diet is great but we need to develop an alternative? WHY???????

My cardiologist and general practitioner had nothing but high praise for ketogenic or Atkins dieting. My cardiologist told me i look great and he is thinking about going back on Atkins.

For me, whether it is Ketogenic or Atkins there are two evils I avoid and i think is the key thing here. Processed foods and sugar. I think just removing those and using proper supplementation will change your life and your body completely.
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Patrick,

Cutting out processed foods and sugar is great, essential in fact. I agree. But I think more can be done. You needn't do anything, but I for one prefer to cut out all sources of toxins from my diet, or as many as I can. For example, I prefer to eat animals that haven't been fed GMO corn and soy when they're meant to eat grass, which is why the fatty acid makeup of these two sets of animals are radically different. I prefer to eat quality fats rather than seed or grain oils that are GMO and poor in quality fatty acids. Such things are important to health.

Again, you needn't do anything, but nutrition is quite complex, as I'm learning more and more each day. And physicians are not nutritionists and more often than not know very little about nutrition. The Atkins diet does not aim for health but for weight loss, and the company itself sells processed foods of its own. Their principle is just to keep down the carbs and eat more fat to get in ketosis. Healthy eating is more complex than that. But if it works for you, then that's what matters most.

There are people on the Mediterranean diet who live to ripe old ages and are quite healthy. Genetics, the state of one's body and so much else matters. The Inuit eat diets that are almost entirely fat and very low in veggies and seem to do just fine, in some respects healthier than us, even though I think most of us would not do too well on those diets. So it gets very complex very fast. My principle is just to limit the toxins and maximize natural and nutrient dense sources of nutrition, that's basically it. So far so good. Perhaps in the future I'll have to change things around again. I don't know.


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LOL.... so basically the diet is great but we need to develop an alternative? WHY???????

My cardiologist and general practitioner had nothing but high praise for ketogenic or Atkins dieting. My cardiologist told me i look great and he is thinking about going back on Atkins.

For me, whether it is Ketogenic or Atkins there are two evils I avoid and i think is the key thing here. Processed foods and sugar. I think just removing those and using proper supplementation will change your life and your body completely.
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