Shiney Sue - thanks for asking Bob - will be curious to hear how he did and maybe if he knows - what specifically type of meds he had? (and yes, when my printer just "died" - did so with a very loud grind! - poor thing!)

Dahlek - in this case right now "A" - no surgery - doc would like to do surgery and said would in a "normal" person she would - but with my heath issues and also not being able to take strong pain killers, cant - this is a temp fix.... I'm hoping to be able to separate gut and back pain in this actually.... if it does work at all - but shes not giving me her normal cocktail I know that cause of drug allergies (including novacaine cause no ephinephrine) - but after talking with other docs, thinks its worth a try anyway....