My front of right thigh is about totally Numb, and occasional burn/tingle, but Inosine has helped in that regard a lot. My issue is from Anterior Hip replacement surgery in 2010. I rub it a lot thinking I can "wake up" the nerves that were damaged.

I'm 80 years old and have suffered with Chronic Idiopathic Polyneuropathy (CIP) for 30 years. I believe in and have adopted a strict plant based diet, but my symptoms didn't improve until I got some help from my PCP. Researchers have found no cause of CIP but have found it gets worse with age. Oh great! My PCP prescribed high doses of Gabapenti and a psychiatrist put me on Remeron to help me sleep at night and Xanax. It has been a godsend when it goes crazy throughout my body. I rarely take more than one mg a day. I also found a Chinese herb called Corydalis to be helpful.

Wade Senior, I agree, a plant based diet is very beneficial for our health. I am sorry you have had to endure so much for so many years and happy to hear that you found some relief. This is a dreadful disease we have to deal with. Thank God there are options when we need them. Thanks for the information.

Well a plant based diet isn't for everyone particularly if you believe that protein is the golden egg that the food industry want you to believe it is. Such is the power of the word 'Protein' you can label any rubbish "High Protein" and sell it as a health food to anyone who doesn't bother to validate it themselves.

In addition the meat industry drip feeds us from childhood the belief that meat is nutrient dense when it is the opposite.

Animal-based protein such as eggs, cow’s milk, meat, and fish contain adequate amounts of all nine essential amino acids, making them complete proteins. Many plant-based foods, such as soybeans, chia and hemp seeds, spinach, and quinoa are also complete protein sources. Although many plant-based foods are considered complete proteins, some plant based foods may be deficient in one or more essential amino acids. These are known as complementary proteins. Complementary proteins can be combined throughout the day so that if one food is low in one essential amino acid, the deficit can be made up with another food. A variety fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and legumes throughout the day will provide sufficient protein. In fact, the right plant-based foods are actually healthier sources of protein than animal products since they usually contain fewer calories, less fat, no cholesterol, more fibre and more nutrients (like potassium, iron, magnesium, folate, and vitamins A and C)

Excess animal protein is linked with kidney disease, osteoporosis, cancers, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease. Animal products, even lean-looking meats, are often associated with large amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol.

There is strong evidence to suggest it is excess protein per se which plays a part in all of these diseases.


The average adult needs to consume between 45 and 56 grams of protein per day.To give you a comparison between some meat and plant based products, a standard 50g beef burger contains 10.2g of protein; half a 415g can of baked beans contains 11.5g of protein; an average serving of pasta (190g cooked) contains 8.5g, an average serving of kidney beans (160g cooked) 12.4g.


The myth that we should eat more protein dates back to the beginning of the last century. The majority view back then was that health – and especially fitness – depended on eating generous amounts of protein, particularly meat (Millward, 2004). It was even reckoned that animal protein was the solution to wiping out child malnutrition in the third world (Autret, 1963; Gounelle de Pontanel, 1972; Stillings, 1973; Scrimshaw and Young, 1976).

The myth reached epic heights in the 1960s. A UN report was published which identified worldwide protein deficiency. It called for a ‘global strategy to avert the impending protein crisis’. International aid began to focus on projects to address the so-called protein gap. The US government, for example, subsidised the production of dried milk powder to provide high-quality protein for the world’s poor (Campbell and Campbell, 2005).

But not everyone accepted that protein was the most important nutrient of all. Wartime studies in the UK by Widdowson and McCance found that orphanage children grew faster than the general population when they ate a bread-based diet, with only a small fraction (14 per cent) of their protein coming from milk products. And the orphanage children grew no faster when nearly half of their protein was from milk! Bread provided the children with plenty of energy to support their growth, whilst meeting more than double their protein needs (Millward, 2004).

Insufficient protein in a plant based diet is a myth. But it's a belief that's widely held and despite scientific evidence its something that people just 'feel' to be true.
I consider it as successful marketing from the meat and dairy industry.

--and that is vitamin B12, which is essential and which the human body cannot break out of non-animal sources, unlike some of our animal cousins. We simply do not have the proper stomach or intestinal length to do that.

So, while I agree that human beings are often encouraged to consume too much protein in general and too many animal products in particular, anyone who is not having any animal products in the diet--and that includes dairy products and eggs--needs to supplement with B12, preferably a methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin form, in case one has genetic problems with the methylation cascade: there are fewer metabolic hoops for the cobalamin to jump through when taken in these forms as opposed to the standard cyanocobalamin form usually sold (and you don't want cyanide radicals running around your body anyway).

B12 deficiency is common even among carnivores as they get older--our levels of intrinsic factor noticeably decline with age--and vegans and vegetarians really do need to supplement from the get-go.

Thanks for your input. Your knowledge is extraordinary. I thought I'd discussed B12 earlier in the thread, maybe it was elsewhere, so thank you.
B12 supplementation as far as I am aware should be at the heart of all self therapy for Peripheral Neuropathy whatever diet you are on. However as you point out there are few Plant Based sources of B12 (due to decreasing soil quality.) We cannot make B12. Meats and milks of herbivorous ruminant animals are good sources of B12 for humans. Ruminants acquire their B12 through a symbiotic relationship with bacteria inside their microbiomes. B12-producing bacteria are located in ruminant stomachs.

These are common Plant Based sources of B12 that I am aware of and my experience of them.

Nutritional Yeast.
Algae/seaweed.
Fortified Plant Milk (soy, almond, coconut, rice)
Fortified breakfast cereals.
Tempeh.
Mushrooms.

I sprinkle Nutritional Yeast on my food that is fortified with B12. I sprinkle Mara Seaweed and also Green Nori ( sea vegetable condiments) Unusually for Vegan Food all of these taste nice! The latter are also rich in Iodine, an element Vegans can be low in. I don't touch plant milks or breakfast cereals but I do add Spirulina to my porridge. I take Algae Oil Vegan Omega 3 DHA and EPA because a Plant Based diet can be low in Omega 3. My experience with Tempeh is tiny. I eat mushrooms regularly. I consider them superfoods.

This video covers B12 and a Plant Based Diet.

I personally take 1000ug of methyl cobalamin daily

What foods contain vitamin B12? | NutritionFacts.org