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Old 12-31-2007, 04:56 PM #11
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I have friends who had them,I was just trying to think how many 5 I think.
Two decided to have them removed,they said they felt sick.. The others
never said anything,and I wouldn't ask,,none of my business..

I was always med size and did the same type of thing C did when I breast
2 out of 3 have a problem with one she's adopted ha. No Your the one
who will have to make up you mind. I'm 61 and think I'm ok except you
do have that body fat thing..My PN has advanced to the point where
I want no surgary uless it's totally nec..Al though I think I'm going to get
my nose done,because i'm fallen and broke it more then once,and I can't
breath.

You decide,think it through , I would see more then one Dr. maybe 3 honest
it's a big decision,and I was going to say money would be a option for me.
Good luck, Sue
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Lightbulb another thing you can look up:

Another thing you can do is Google
attorney breast implants

I have found that many sites on the web written by litigation attorneys
can have statistics and information that the medical ones do not share.

And remember statute of limitations for harm/injury in most states is only
two years. And it takes longer than that as a rule to react negatively
to implants.

There is also a syndrome resembling multiple sclerosis and implants:
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Scientists study disease using animal models. There is a number of virus animal models for MS but the best is a disease called EAE, experimental allergic encephalomyelitis. When Louis Pasteur made the original rabies vaccine, he used virus infected rabbit nervous tissue which contained myelin. This sensitized a few subjects who developed a fulminent autoimmune nervous system disease. Animals injected with CNS myelin develop the same disease. No virus is involved. Under the microscope there is an inflammatory invasion of the white matter. We also know there are certain substances that excite, fan the flames, of the immune system. If you inject myelin in a rabbit you need to use something called Freund's adjuvant to produce EAE. This is speculative but some say that Silicon breast implants may excite the immune system in certain very few very susceptible women. Certain bugs called mites may do the same for asthmatics and there are probably many more examples of this. It may be possible to "tweak" the immune system in specific ways. We just have to learn more about it. Beta-interferon is but one example of a substance that may down-regulate or control immune reactions.
from http://www.pneuro.com/publications/ms/index.html

keyword breast implants multiple sclerosis for more examples

It boils down to how susceptible you are to immune issues. If you are a
"reactor" then the risk is much higher. Allergies, hives, asthma, other allergic or inflammatory things you might have had so far are a sign, that you may be a reactor.
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I was reading your imformation,or should say scanning,,do to ......
dry eyes. Will read agin tomomrow,did it say anything about
the use of Chemo. mostly in 30 yr. olds. Been hearing more about
this in the last few years. Thanks Sue
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Implants... You may have read one or more of my postings pertaining to implants, if you have been searching through this forum.

I have been very sick since the early 90's with a connective tissue disease believed related to a 17 year history of silicone implants. They were removed leaking and ruptured. This disease has manifested itself in extremely painful peripheral neuropathy and a host of other problems. I never dreamed in a million years that I would spend my declining years in one doctor's office after another with one problem after another...

This can be compounded by physicians who do not take your complaints seriously, which leaves you in an unbelievable mode of suffering, stress and frustration...

If you take a chance, remember that removing them does not necessarily mean problems will reverse. Most women still have residual health problems. Once your immune system is on the attack, it doesn't just stop its attack. It is a lifelong process of attacking various tissues in your body...

Your plastic surgeon is only repeating what manufacturers are telling him... Pick about 6 plastic surgeon's names out of your phone book and call and ask the receptionists if they have heard of people having problems with implants... I can almost guarantee you that they will say they have never heard of anyone getting sick from autoimmune or neurological problems. If this is true, then what about all of these women who are posting of problems on various boards?

After that, ask your insurance company if they will pay for removal, should you develop problems relating to your implants, like autoimmune illnesses, Fibromyalgia, Peripheral Neuropathy and some of the other illnesses you probably have read about here... You have no idea how expensive constant health problems are and having the implants removed is NOT cheap... (Would you be able to work if you got sick?)

I have been very lucky, in that I have a supportive husband, who did not dump me when I got sick and became unable to work. Many of the women I met had just that happen... If you are married, do you want to take a chance on causing this kind of stress with your spouse? If not, do you want to chance this with a future spouse? If you intend to remain single, is this chance worth your health?

Think about it. Good luck...

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No surgery is minor... Infection, allergic reactions to anesthesia, heart problems under anesthesia. Then the possibility of scarring and hardening around the implant ( quite common), not to mention what many have reported regarding possibilities of auto-immune disease. I think that anyone who does this is taking a great risk, essentially mutilating thier body also. Good health is priceless. If you lose it, it's almost impossible to recover it.
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Default The problem is--

--when the issue of breast implants (or, for that matter, butt implants or penile implants) comes up, one cannot get away from the issue of vanity vs. health.

There are legitimate medical reasons for such implants in certain circumstances--after mastectomy, for example, when balance issues are involved. For men, it might be when adequate sexual or urinary functioning might not otherwise be possible.

Unfortunately, the grand majority of these implant procedures are not done for medical reasons--they are done for aesthetic ones. And that fact immediately calls for an evaluation of our conceptions of beauty, our need to fit in, our feelings of inadequacy in the face of difficult-to-attain "standards" promulgated in the media, and a whole host of psychological issues.

My bias on this is well known--I think we far too often emphasize the superficial over the deep, the form over the content. (I make the same argument when it comes to us applying possibly unhealthful cosmetics to our bodies.) But since I also believe that autonomy is very important, I would not deny someone enhancement for solely aesthetic reasons. However, I would strongly encourage such individuals to look deep first not only into the possible risks, but into their own motivations.
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I cannot say that your problems were positively caused by your implants. I would be highly suspicious though, and at least consider removal, in hopes that you will show some improvement...

If you do consider having them removed Cristy, ideally it would be to have an experienced surgeon remove them using the "en bloc" technique. Scar capsules form around each implant and the surgeon would cut around the scar, removing implant and capsule together in one unit, much like a ball in a catcher's mitt.

You are not very far from where my sister lives. She also experienced implant problems and at the time was unable to afford the cost of explantation with a private surgeon. I believe hers were removed at Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, through one of the surgical residency programs, which was considerably less expensive. This is not an ideal means of having implants removed, but it beats leaving them in, especially if you are experiencing health issues. I would insist that the above technique be utilized, which will help remove some of the residual silicone and implant shell debris...

Good luck, let me know if I can help further.

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I'm back it's cold and we are getting ice,please check also with St. Luke's
in Kansas City or St. John's in St. Louis and Barnes in St. Louis check
there for Trail Studies and where Yorkiemon said Just say someone I know
Cristy mentioned them. Sue
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One thing about researching this decision to get implants is that I don't know what is fact or fiction. You have your "pro" and "anti" websites. If all this stuff about implants and PN is true, why are people getting them? Don't they do their research? I know of some people that have implants and they seem perfectly healthy. I don't know if they would tell me if they are having problems. My sister has had them since 1990 and I don't think she has any problems unless again she isn't saying. I don't exactly understand PN. All I know is it has something to do with dieases of the nervous system. I have never heard of it until I somehow got directed to this site and joined. Let me know more on this subject of implants if you have personal experiences and honest to God are telling the truth. Thank You.
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I guess like most decisions, it comes down to how you feel about it after you read the pros and cons.
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