So, this isn't as bad as the pig brain saga, never the less....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212514

This news article was very appropriate around my house. I've been "discussing" an alternative to not knowing what is in your food chain. Check this out: http://www.eatwild.com/

If you look at the bar on the left you can find out how to find your local supporters of this action.
I'd like to see a discussion over this.

My opthalmic plastic surgeon actually suggested this idea to me because of all the autoimmune issues I have. She wants me to take out as much of the processed food as I can. She also suggested 3-4 grams of fish oil (slowly added to my regimen). I've worked up to 3 grams a day plus an extra serving of fish each week. I was to take out the 2 doses of Indomethacin I usually take in preparation for surgery. I haven't taken it in several days and except for one finger, I can't tell the difference.

Billye

They just had something on one of the major search engine home pages, I forget which one...on the best 10 foods to buy organic....the ones that contain the most 'garbage'.

My husband was at Walmart and picked up a package of Wild Alaskan Salmon....(then noticed it said 'Product of China') LOL.

Generally free range antibiotic, hormone free eggs are widely available as is organic milk...we have a lot of organic dairies around here. I do have my own yogurt maker, but at times am too exhausted to make the mess.

I drink reverse osmosis water....have no choice, as our water is full of farm chemicals....any one in the country around here has at least high nitrates, so most of us just install reverse osmosis systems.

Eating organically is harder than one thinks...it is labor intensive and pricey, but, it probably is a very good idea.

I just wish we would get truth in labeling for food, nutraceuticals and drugs.

I just went and bought my new bottle of sublingual B-12....I had liquid, now I have pills, much better tasting....hubby is taking it, and also on a kick to lose weight as he noticed he is sore all the time and now losing the hair on his legs (he was always pretty hairy)....Guess what he is on....Lipitor. So he is determined to get off that....I have been nagging him for a year now.

markets accessable year round? YOu can get good stuff directly from the 'maker' so to speak. It's not cheap, but simpler?
Honestly, no food stuffs are safe anymore, nor should we expect them to be. The calculations regarding safety vs. death are calculated to the "PROFIT" nth degree...ergo us 'sensitive' folks just have to be 'careful out there'!
I got my DH a water filter for his use on his birthday recently, he loves it, thinks the water tastes better and all. But, I feel we have a very above average water- tested water here, and I want those little things in there to keep being there! WHY? Because IF I eliminate them, then I mite become susceptable to THEM as well. IF I can keep some 'things' I am tolerant of in my system and still be tolerant of them, that is that many fewer 'things' I could get sick from, in my opinion.
Give me things I CAN become tolerant to! Sound silly? Not really, I am just trying to be realistic. As A kid, I was in 'trials' I think about allergy intolerances, and in 'treatments' for same. Stuff didn't work for me, nor for anyone else I gathered...It was a kind of homeopathic kind of therapy. I still react as bady to those allergens now as I did then. Sigh.
Foods? Same things - how fish are fed, caught and processed these days is far different from 5, 10, and even 30 years ago! What is actually caught or raised is different as well. Beef, pork and poultry the same thing. Our options tho, are kind of limited? We could just not eat?
NOPE? Didn't think so.. So, we take our chances trying to be as informed as possible and choose accordingly.
WHO KNEW IT WOULD BE SOO HARD TO KEEP THINGS SIMPLE???? Hugs all -j

Thanks for starting this. Very interesting... I have wondered if changing our way of eating might help improve my health. Our eating habits are not the best, we eat out a lot, etc.

I do wish we had some means of raising at least some of our own food, but in a city, where houses are right on top of one another, that is a tough order to fill...

I am supposed to make a concerted effort to eat healthier and eat less meat and poultry, after the recent findind of elevated Uric Acid. I also live with a steakaholic...

You know what I would like to see are some suggestions on how city people can raise their own produce in small areas, so you know what you are getting in at least a portion of your diet...

Thanks all,
Cathie

That is great--I take a double strength one each day, sometimes two.
That is how I can get away with only an Aleve liquigel once a week or so (when the weather gets awful and changes rapidly).

And I will not buy or eat ground beef... haven't for years. I do sirloins or flat irons in stew and that is it for red meat here.

I don't trust any ground meat anymore, not even in grocery stores, after a Dateline show I saw that tested meat purchased from stores which did not clean their equipment properly. I don't get ice in drinks in restaurants either.

Ugh I live if So Cal and I cannot believe that story on the ground beef. And a lot of it what to school kids and was likely already eaten.

Thats enough for me to swear off ground beef. I sure will miss cheeseburgers.

So sad because you see who's getting the awful meat or whatever
it's called. This has happened around here as well. J is right to bad
it can''t be all year round. In this area my children's friends who
remain,are Professors,Doctor',Nurses or Farmers.Bless those farrmers
are like the wonderful article Billye had,they work hard,..Go in the stores
and I've did the same thing C husband did,good thing I read labels.
Dr. John said the organic farmers charge more but well worth it..Especially
if you know them,my sons friends may make more money,but someone
in the farmers family usually has to work outside the business,because
they need health insurance...Remember when meat was full of pencillen
and people who were allergic,like me felt a wee bit pukey,and rashes,
and who knows perhaps death and this is't meant to be funny.Like c
I have all kinds of good thing machine, but right now can't use them
and when I can to tired,or hurt to much. Sue

Excellent thread Cyclelops:

I haven't eaten meat (beef I mean, in any way shape or form for over 10 years now). And after reading that article, I believe I won't eat it for anothr 10 years (If I make it that long).

But there is an alternative for you guys and gals who enjoy a good hamburger on a roll with lettuce and tomatoes.

They have Boca Burgers, garden burgers, all kind of veggie stuff. I don' eat them, because I jus don't. No special reason.

There's also whole grain pasta with cooked tomatoe sauce (source of lycopene).

And believe me, if I had a backyard or a place to build a hydroponic garden, I'd do i in a heartbeat and grow ALL my fruits and vegetables.

I'll never forget when we went to Disneyworld years ago. They take you on an underground trip where they show you where they grow their organic stuff. I never was so impressed in all my life. All this produce (and you KNOW how I love my produce), well it was in WATER, and it was like an underground world. Don't know if they continue to do this it impressed the heck out of me.

I wash my fruits and veggies very carefully (to get an pesticide residue off), but I know that there's stuff that seeped in. I just try to do the best I can, and when I can afford to, and I'm in NYC, there's a few good reputable organic places.

But the pre-packaged stuff, including those burgers. well, god only knows what the kids in school are being fed. Processed chicken nuggets, boxes pizzas, and don't get me started on the vending machines placed around schools.

The next generation of kids better watch out because we are going to outlive them.