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Mel,
Don't let him turn it up all the way. He will probably set off serious muscle spasms. It should be turned up to where it can just be barely felt. Turning it up all the way will also cause the body to be accustomed to it much faster and it won't do any good at all. I speak from experience. Billye
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Well, he didn't feel it until he turned it up all the way.
I will tell him exactly what you all said, Then I will hit him in the head. Melody
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--especialy about starting at low settings, both so that one doesn't "habituate" away from any pain-blocking effect too rapidly, and so that muscle spasms are not produced.
I have a nice programmable four electrode portable TENS (with belt clip) that was originally prescribed through my physical therpaist for the meralgia parasthetica in my right thigh (which has been flaring recently, possibly with all the driving I've been doing), but I've used it over many parts of my body (though not the face and chest). The intensity levels for each electrode range from 1 to 36 and there are twelve pre-programmed patterns that can be chosen, ranging from pulses of various durations to continuous current. I generally use intensities ranging from around 5 to 12, though as the battery loses charge (they are rechargable) I have to ramp it up somewhat. In general, the fleshier the area (say, a thigh compared to a forearm), the higher the setting needs to be to get the same effect. It does have a good effect for me as regards pain blockage, at least as long as it is on. TENS units take advantage of the nerve conduction fact that pain is the sensation that moves most slowly up and down the carrying fibers; overlaying another sensation, such as electrical vibration, over the pain one tends to block it from perception. Electrode placement is a big experiment, especially as none of us have exactly the same pain or exactly the same neuroanatomy. Whenever I use it, I typically move the electrodes around, millimeter by millimeter, a number of times until I find an optimal spot. |
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Why Alan is having so much pain, he needs a Tens?
Also, at PT they don't usually do TENs...they do IFc. They are both electrical, look similar. But IFc is healing and TENs is only blocking. So I for one don't understand what is going on here. No problem using TENs for pain. But if Alan has that much to deal with, I'd check with the doctor etc. Just My Opinion JMO.
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The physical therapist opened the case of the TENS and set it to:
Pulse Width - 220 Pulse Rate 50 (It's a ProM-300 unit. In the middle under TIMER there are two thingees and both of them are set to 30. So I gather they are both set to 30 minutes. What the pulse width and rate is, I have no idea. The only reason that we have the TENS unit in our possession is that my friend's mother gave it to her daughter, and she lent it to us. Alan still has neuropathy between his toes, and his feet burn (all the time as he puts it). It's only the intensity that changes (like with the weather). If the weather is about the change and it's going to rain, he will say "oh my feet are doing a dance". Then after the hard hard rain, he goes 'ah, I feel nothing". Now if you all think that this TENS unit is not going to make a difference, I'll tell him. One time, when he saw Dr. Theirl, Dr. Theirl told him to put the TENS unit on his lower back because he felt that's WHERE ALL OF ALAN'S PROBLEMS STEMMED FROM. Only no one else agreed with him and every single doctor he saw said "it's not your back". Then he had the spinal tap and they found protein in his spinal fluid. And I know that you can have more than one thing going on. So TENS is a blocker?? Well, when he goes to the Physical Therapy, they put some electrodes on him, then they put some big kind of pad over his leg, they turn on the juice for 15 minutes, and he's in heaven. They put the electrodes on the bottom of the right calf. (the leg where he had the surgery). (I kind of thought this gadget was a souped up TENS UNIT). Then they do some ultrasound, then the guy comes in and massages his lower calf. I have no idea why they do this, but Alan loves it. I have told them that Alan's leg does not hurt. They know exactly where he has neuropathy. I believe this physical therapy has much to do with him stretching the muscle in his calf. God, I can't believe how stupid I really am compared to all of you. So does this TENS thing help with the burning in the feet (for diabetic neuropathy)?? And if Alan does get cramps from this gadget, do I put ice, or do I put warm compresses? JUST WENT IN TO CHECK, AND HE'S OUT LIKE A LIGHT. He must have loved this thing because he's sleeping like a baby. Exactly how he slept during the physical therapy appointment.
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Wisest Elder Ever
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A IFc treatment at the highest level you can stand (mine was 13) for 20-30 minutes with an ice pack over the spot (for me it was the sensitive groin area)...
Then the ultrasound. I would certainly find out what they are doing at that PT. ( he would NOT be going to PT for only TENs....it has to be IFc= inferential current) TENs is not harmful, but it does NOT have healing properties. And placement of the electrodes is different for IFc (usually). I would NOT turn it up like they do at at PT for IFc treatments. Please ask the therapists for more detailed info. You might want to go there for clarity, at least once.
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I've been to every single session with him. I do my own workouts (for my frozen shoulder). I have a ball there.
The top guy (don't know what your would call him at this place), but he's the one who set the tens machine and told me to leave it at that setting and he can do it for as long as he wanted to. He did tell me (Alan slept all through this discussion), he told me that Alan should start at the lowest session. I told this to Alan but he wanted to do what he wanted to do. I did tell him that if he used it again and turned the dial all the way to the right, that he would be a dead husband. He laughed. He woke up and feels just dandy. We're going there tomorrow. I shall get more detail on the electrodes with the big pad over it, (don't know if it's IFc). Will update. Melody
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