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Beatrice P 03-11-2011 06:07 AM

Aspirin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosie33 (Post 751319)
Hi Doc,

I've decided to pass on the aspirin even though it really helped me. I read too many horror stories on how it destroys your stomach. I take alpha lipoic acid (ubiqutol) B12, Benfotiamine (B1), and now I sent for some P5P (B6) recommended by Mrs. D. I also use a topical cream (Topricin) that really helps with the pain for a while. I also take a multi vitamin, and krill oil, calcium, and vitamin D3. If I want relief from aspirin I'll take Alka Seltzer regular with aspirin, also recommended by Mrs. D. This site is wonderful, so many friendly and supportive people. Take care & be well....:circlelove:

Hi!
I am new to this forum, eventhough I have been diagnosed with PN a year ago.
Just wondering if natural aspirin (White Willow Bark) could have the same devastating effect on the stomach...does anyone knows?
thanks:),
Bea

mrsD 04-05-2011 06:24 AM

Here is an official site with willow bark information:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/w...ark-000281.htm

The potential is there... but depending on dose, I would think the risks of bleeding would be less than aspirin if used prudently.

The bleeding effects are not local from the stomach always...they can be induced thru the blood stream to the tissues that way.
That is how all NSAIDs work. They interfere with PGE1 synthesis which builds the protective stomach lining in the first place.

Jelly Bean 04-06-2011 06:40 PM

Thanks Liza Jane
 
Hi Liza Jane,
I took your advice awhile back, been on it about a month, somewhat better. Just started watching diet closer, cutting out all processed food, bad sugars, keeping carbs lowered. I am not diabetic but wonder what this diet will do. Tried everything else, I was gluten intolerant for years before finding out a year ago so the damage done during that time is probably the culprit but digestion is great now w/o gluten, so I'm doing the CoQ10, acetyl carnitine, evening primrose, R-lipoic acid and multiple vitamins. Also exercise an hour a day. Thanks for your input. I hope you didn't have to have the spinal surgery.:o

Quote:

Originally Posted by LizaJane (Post 260117)
My neuropathy began in 1996. By 1999 I had two abnormal EMGs. I think had a bunch of other abnormals. I went to Mayo and had more abnormals.

Today I had an EMG as preparation for spinal surgery and the sensory nerves were normal. I haven't gotten the final report, but he neurologist who did the test said all nerves were normal, except my peroneal, which have never been normal. I do have a new L5 radiculopathy with denervation of the L5 muscles on the left, but it's not new enough to be causing my pain. (that's from the spine)

After seeing the results, one of the neuros said: That means the original diagnosis was wrong, and you never had neuropathy!

Yah, right. I told them I had learned how to care for it--the secret is feeding the mitochondria needed to grow axons (CoQ10, acetyl L carnitine) and taking antioxidants to keep inflammation from causing harm. In addition, keep using the muscles, whether you feel them or not. That was the secret I learned on this forum.

And really, my symptoms are so small compared to 10 years ago. Yes, they're not gone, but they are not that significant.

It can be done. If you've got an idiopathic small fiber neuropathy, or long fiber, and don't have an ongoing CIDP or Sjogren's picture, your peripheral nerves can heal.


Droopy 04-28-2011 03:01 PM

L5 arthritis or small fiber neuropathy
 
I just had a MRI and the results was...disk degeneration at L5-Sl with a with a midline annular tear and shallow central disk protrusion but without nerve
encroachment or canals stenosis. Does this mean I may not have small fiber neuropathy just as you are saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LizaJane (Post 260117)
My neuropathy began in 1996. By 1999 I had two abnormal EMGs. I think had a bunch of other abnormals. I went to Mayo and had more abnormals.

Today I had an EMG as preparation for spinal surgery and the sensory nerves were normal. I haven't gotten the final report, but he neurologist who did the test said all nerves were normal, except my peroneal, which have never been normal. I do have a new L5 radiculopathy with denervation of the L5 muscles on the left, but it's not new enough to be causing my pain. (that's from the spine)

After seeing the results, one of the neuros said: That means the original diagnosis was wrong, and you never had neuropathy!

Yah, right. I told them I had learned how to care for it--the secret is feeding the mitochondria needed to grow axons (CoQ10, acetyl L carnitine) and taking antioxidants to keep inflammation from causing harm. In addition, keep using the muscles, whether you feel them or not. That was the secret I learned on this forum.

And really, my symptoms are so small compared to 10 years ago. Yes, they're not gone, but they are not that significant.

It can be done. If you've got an idiopathic small fiber neuropathy, or long fiber, and don't have an ongoing CIDP or Sjogren's picture, your peripheral nerves can heal.


glenntaj 04-29-2011 06:08 AM

No--
 
--you may still well have neuropathy; there are many more systemic causes of neuropathy besides nerve compression in or near the spinal cord. ("Radiculopathy" is the term for nerve symptoms caused by compression of the spinal nerve roots.)

axseptants 05-13-2011 07:16 AM

Question re: Neuropathy Improvement
 
LizaJane - Thank you for your inspiring message. I have do not yet know the cause of the neuropathy that I have. I have autoimmune symptoms akin to Sjogren's, but I don't meet the strict diagnostic criteria.

I noticed you said that as long as someone doesn't have a Sjogren's picture or CIPD, then the neuropathy can improve. Does that mean those of us who may have Sjogren's or CIDP or some other autoimmune cause are doomed?? Is there no way to stop the progressin of neuropathy caused by autoimmune disorders?

Thanks.

LadyB 07-20-2011 06:37 PM

Liza Jane you know what to do!
 
LizaJane,Yah, right. I told them I had learned how to care for it--the secret is feeding the mitochondria needed to grow axons (CoQ10, acetyl L carnitine) and taking antioxidants to keep inflammation from causing harm. In addition, keep using the muscles, whether you feel them or not. That was the secret I learned on this forum.

And really, my symptoms are so small compared to 10 years ago. Yes, they're not gone, but they are not that significant.

It can be done. If you've got an idiopathic small fiber neuropathy, or long fiber, and don't have an ongoing CIDP or Sjogren's picture, your peripheral nerves can heal.[/QUOTE]

Well this does work and the only problem is the money to continue the program we start for ourselves. I came herelloking for a solution to using Cymbalta for nerve pain and this made sense to me as I used these itmes years ago and had no burning of my feet./ But got very ill with a viral infection I had to do the doctors way of meds for a while. Now I am, back on my burning feet and am seeking relief with out Cymbalta ebing my only answer. I also use Manuka Honey with Bee Venom as I am not allergic to it and find Same to be of great benefit too . But as you say the nerv e can heal . I thought so and to read this i s so good!! big hug and thanks

legsdickson 10-12-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LizaJane (Post 517079)
jsrail: I've just read your note suggesting that maybe the doctor who said I never had neuropathy was correct. I understand the fear that hope can become a belief in miracles, but really, I'm not a miracle.

I have a real sensorimotor neuropathy, with autonomic involvement. Over the past 10 years or so there were periods of great sickness and symptoms, and periods that were better. But the trajectory, putting it all together, was slow and steady improvement.

I always felt best when I was on antibiotics for my chronic sinus infections, and many of us here noted some sort of correlation between infections and neuropathy. When my sinuses were infected, my neuropathy was worse; when I was on antibiotics, I felt more well on all parameters, including neuro.

My EMG/NCS are not as good as the test results I described in the post you responded to, but still, I am much much better.

In the end, my diagnosis is still confusing, but now there is even more hope.
I have tested positive for lyme, and markers of chronic lyme are all positive.
I have been on antibiotics since February, and I can now count 3 full weeks of wellness, including improved neuro function. I have signs of autoimmune illness, but the general thinking is that there was a trigger for the autoimmunity, and it was probably the lyme bacteria.

I can expect at least 12 months of treatment, and I'm finding it easy to tolerate while seeing a doctor who is very experienced in caring for complicated patients as well as chronic lyme.

I have no idea how many of us with "idiopathic" neuropathy have lyme, but anyone who has neuropathy should be tested for it.

I did improve, and hope it continues.

Best to all..

Thanks to you all for posting on this board with so many encouraging suggestions and ideas and experiences with PN and associated issues.
I started noticing numbness in the soles of my feet back in the year 2000. In 2001 I started training for a marathon, running from 3 to 8 miles a day, and then late that year, running the Baltimore Comcast 26.3 mile marathon.
I guess I shouldn't have done all that running, because my numbness progressed through those months to include numbness and tingling in both feet and up the ankles, and the fingers of both hands. There was no pain, just numbness and tingling. My VA Medical Center doctor ordered an MRI and a multitude of tests, only to finally determine no cause. I am not diabetic, not anemic, no other deficiences, etc. Neurological testing showed some deterioration of the nerve endings. They diagnosed me, finally in 2005, with idiopathic small fiber peripheral neuropathy and told me there was nothing they could do for me. Without determining a cause, they could offer no treatment. Later that year, I sent samples of my blood to a California lab and was diagnosed with Lyme disease. I took these findings to the VA and they ordered more tests, including a spinal tap. The infectious disease doctor then told me, in a very impatient tone, that I had absolutely "no Lyme disease, and no infectious disease of any kind!" She added that there was "no such thing as chronic Lyme disease," and anyone who said there was, was just "in it for the money." And that was that!

Since then I have always felt that chronic Lyme might be the underlying problem causing my peripheral neuropathy, but before I could investigate further, at age 78, I had a heart attack. The cadiologist diagnosed me with coronary artery disease, with 40% blockage in the left artery, and 100% blockage in the right artery. He put one stent in the left artery He told me that, normally, he would advise by-pass surgery for the right artery, but I had established a collateral artery, sort of a natural by-pass, which although small and fragile, would serve me now and I should exercise to build up its strength. So from that time on I have been focused on recovering from this arterial plaque issue, regaining my strength and stamina slowly. And letting go of my concern over peripheral neuropathy for several intervening years. Now, at age 80, I find this forum and consider it a godsend to have available this information just as I am preparing to return to the VA for annual testing.

I am following the protocol, in part, suggested here for PN, but following it for my arterial condition. These supplements are recommended for the heart and other cardiological issues as well as for PN. So now I think I understand what I need to do going forward: focus on refining my supplement regimen, which has served so well in my coronary artery recovery. I am convinced that the supplements I am taking, and the diet I am following (mostly raw foods), with some refinements, will also bear the chance of alleviating the PN as well.

I have never had any pain associated with the PN, just numbness and tingling. The numbness has advanced to encompass my entire periphery, including my scalp, my face, my buttocks, my legs, my arms and fingers. Everything tingles. So now I have discontinued my Plavix in favor of a natural protocol which is working well, or so it seems. I am anxious to see what my test results will reveal in month or so. I am using flaxseed oil blended with organic, low fat cottage cheese (known as the Budwig protocol) which has given me a big increase in energy; cayenne pepper and fresh lemon juice in warm water every morning; raw honey and cinnamon powder before bedtime; and lots of supplements and exercise. I lift weights and walk a lot, no more running. The supplements are: Vitamin B-100 Complex, Vitamin C (8000 mg daily), Vitamin D-3 (5000 IU daily), Vitamin E (400 IU daily), Co Q-10 (600 mg), R-Lipoic Acid, Serrapeptase, Nattokinase, Saw Palmetto Berry(450 mg), Fennugreek, Kelp powder, Spirolina powder, Aged Garlic, L-Tauralin, L-Arginine, L-Carnitine, and a few others. I have fruit smoothies for breakfast, raw carrots, apples, grapes, etc during the day, then at night I'll have a dinner of salad, maybe some chicken breast or salmon, and a vegetable like asparagus, broccoli, green beans, cabbage, or sprouts. I eat no red meat, no sugar, no dairy (except the cottage cheese), no cheese, no white flour, no white rice, no white pasta, no wheat, no gluten. I feel 100% better. But I'm still numb! Thanks to you all, now I will start working on that issue, using your generous suggestions and advice to see what works.
Thanks for bein' there!
legsdickson
Washington, DC

ron soderquist 10-29-2011 02:42 PM

peripheral neuropathy
 
My legs below knees more and more numb...neurolologist says - no cause, no cure - live with and be thankful there is no pain. trying chelation therapy, just starting because tests report heavy metals. any success frm anyone with chelation?
I tried herbal anti inflammatory etc. thanks. Ron S.

Nervous 10-29-2011 04:44 PM

^^In the 15 months or so since my diagnosis, my PN symptoms have progressed from the bottoms of my feet to above the knees. Also, have some arm and hand symptoms.


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