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Old 09-20-2012, 03:24 PM #1
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Default My experience with mixing the two.

I was on gaba at 2400 mg/d (4x600 mg doses), then switched to Lyrica at 300 mg/day (2x150 mg doses). I found that Lyrica has a half life that tapers off quickly to the point where it is ineffective well before the next dose. I therefore use one gaba to 'fill in' when I start to get very uncomfortable, and it seems to work.

I asked my pain doc about this and he told me to quit what I was doing (I didn't - sometimes a well informed patient is the best judge in such matters). I think it comes down to how often you mix the meds and what the dosages are.

Before I was taking gaba or Neurontin for many years. Then, as most have discovered, the drug's effectiveness diminished rather quickly, hence the titrating up. However, if you can handle occasionally not using these drugs for 1-3 weeks, much if not most of the durgs' original effectiveness returns. I know this creates a roller coaster but for some it may be well worth it.

Lortab is another example of where getting off of it for a while occasionally will restore the original effectiveness. It will save you from changing to stronger opoids.

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there is a poster Brian on here from time to time who used to titrate down and then back up again on medication for PN when he had become too tolerant of it even at large doses. it worked for him.
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I was on gaba at 2400 mg/d (4x600 mg doses), then switched to Lyrica at 300 mg/day (2x150 mg doses). I found that Lyrica has a half life that tapers off quickly to the point where it is ineffective well before the next dose. I therefore use one gaba to 'fill in' when I start to get very uncomfortable, and it seems to work.


Before I was taking gaba or Neurontin for many years. Then, as most have discovered, the drug's effectiveness diminished rather quickly, hence the titrating up. However, if you can handle occasionally not using these drugs for 1-3 weeks, much if not most of the durgs' original effectiveness returns. I know this creates a roller coaster but for some it may be well worth it.



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How do you wean off so quickly? I assume you need to wean off then wait 1-3 weeks and then ramp back up again?

I was on Gabapentin but could not get past 1500mg a day as it was drying out my throat something God awful.


I am on 600mg lyricia and found that once it hit 300mg I was gettings some positive results that would last a few days. then 400mg. less pain for a week and the pain would come back, 500mg less pain for week, then pain would come back, and then 600mg less pain for a week and pain would come back. Notice a pattern. My Doctor said while you can build up a tolerance to the drug it shouldnt happend that quickly.

My burning pain is up and down so much I can't find a pattern but it seems like the lyrica isnt doing much for it. I should try getting off Lyrica but I am afraid my pain will be worse if I do.
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