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Yes...the manufacturer stated that one would need to take 6 tablets a day. That being said, would I need to add additional B12 on my own? That would get me to the 5000 number?

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Yes...the manufacturer stated that one would need to take 6 tablets a day. That being said, would I need to add additional B12 on my own? That would get me to the 5000 number?

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No, 1mg is enough for most people to see improvements.
But you need to know your B12 levels...to predict that.
If you were really low, say below 200 the 5mg would be better.

Make sure you take on an empty stomach.

Also one down side to a shot gun approach like this is that you will not know which ingredient is really helping you.

I personally would start with B12 separately and take one P-5-P (activated B6) daily. See what happens.

But you do what you want.

For the money you are paying, you could ask Dr. Latov for Metanx.

People who end up here are more likely to have metabolic failures with some nutrients.
So activated B6 would be a better investment for you. Metanx has methylfolate, methylB12 and activated pyridoxine in it. All 3 activated. It requires a doctor's RX because of the high folate.
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MrsD....I have not gotten my numbers from Latov in terms of levels. He is waiting for the results of the skin biopsy. Not a talkative guy...at any rate, I had had a panel done September, and my Vitamin B12 Serum was 592. And my B6 at the time was high at 28...three months later it is low?!?! I have been dieting (I need to lose 100 lbs, which I am sure will help the pain when I get there). My D levels were as follows:

Vitamin D, 1.25 Dihydroxy = 29 Range is 19 to 67
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, Total = 16 inidcated low 20 -100 is normal

Thanks and have a great 2009!!!
Dtiamin D 25-OH, D3 = 16
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, D2 <4


Vitamin E was right on target.

I am sorry I did not pay more attention in Chemistry class.

I am not even sure that this is all neuropathy, given that my pain DOES NOT get worse at night, and I sleep fine, and have no pain. Also, standing no pain. Wonder if real microcirculation issues are at hand. The pain is so annoying and that is why I was looking at the Neuro Essentials since the Lipoic Acid and Carnithine have proven helpful in some studies.

The other thing is an herb called horse chestnut which improves circulation. Who the heck knows!?
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MrsD....I have not gotten my numbers from Latov in terms of levels. He is waiting for the results of the skin biopsy. Not a talkative guy...at any rate, I had had a panel done September, and my Vitamin B12 Serum was 592. And my B6 at the time was high at 28...three months later it is low?!?! I have been dieting (I need to lose 100 lbs, which I am sure will help the pain when I get there). My D levels were as follows:

Vitamin D, 1.25 Dihydroxy = 29 Range is 19 to 67
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, Total = 16 inidcated low 20 -100 is normal

Thanks and have a great 2009!!!
Dtiamin D 25-OH, D3 = 16
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, D2 <4


Vitamin E was right on target.

I am sorry I did not pay more attention in Chemistry class.

I am not even sure that this is all neuropathy, given that my pain DOES NOT get worse at night, and I sleep fine, and have no pain. Also, standing no pain. Wonder if real microcirculation issues are at hand. The pain is so annoying and that is why I was looking at the Neuro Essentials since the Lipoic Acid and Carnithine have proven helpful in some studies.

The other thing is an herb called horse chestnut which improves circulation. Who the heck knows!?
Hi.

Gotta get those B-12 levels up. My number is 2000.

Keep taking the Methyl b-12.

We don't want to put you in a Ketamine coma.

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Yeah I have not even started B12....will do that and get the P5P B6 today. I am not patient, but I understand that it takes a couple of months to see benefits.

I thought I might be pregnant, and that was causing these symptoms. Then I realized I am a guy....

The funny thing is, I, probably like everyone else likes quick solutions...so I actually did suggest the ketamine thing to my first neurologist. I did this after I saw the trial and error of these various drugs to get the right cocktail. He was not amused. I certainly was. I have worked on Wall STreet 20+ years, as a senior technologist. If I gave my boss the same lines of horse*&(^ that these doctors do, I would have had to wear an athletic protector.

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MrsD....I have not gotten my numbers from Latov in terms of levels. He is waiting for the results of the skin biopsy. Not a talkative guy...at any rate, I had had a panel done September, and my Vitamin B12 Serum was 592. And my B6 at the time was high at 28...three months later it is low?!?! I have been dieting (I need to lose 100 lbs, which I am sure will help the pain when I get there). My D levels were as follows:

Vitamin D, 1.25 Dihydroxy = 29 Range is 19 to 67
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, Total = 16 inidcated low 20 -100 is normal

Thanks and have a great 2009!!!
Dtiamin D 25-OH, D3 = 16
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, D2 <4


Vitamin E was right on target.

I am sorry I did not pay more attention in Chemistry class.

I am not even sure that this is all neuropathy, given that my pain DOES NOT get worse at night, and I sleep fine, and have no pain. Also, standing no pain. Wonder if real microcirculation issues are at hand. The pain is so annoying and that is why I was looking at the Neuro Essentials since the Lipoic Acid and Carnithine have proven helpful in some studies.

The other thing is an herb called horse chestnut which improves circulation. Who the heck knows!?
If you need to lose alot of weight, you are most likely insulin resistant. I'd get a fasting insulin run to see if it is elevated.
If you are--then you are pre-diabetic...and need to adjust your diet. Follow the Zone, or any diet on the net that is for metabolic syndrome/Syndrome X.

You will need some Vit D supplementation. I'd consult that website I gave you earlier. You will need at least 4000IU daily of D3. Maybe more. Upper safe limit today is 10,000 IU D3. (new data)

For the burning, you can try Biofreeze rub. This sometimes works. It is very high in menthol, and has ilex in it which is an antioxidant.
Also you might investigate Lidoderm patches.
Try 1/2 patch behind the knee on that side, and also on your back following nerve distribution to your arm and leg.
These work quite well, when placed over the nerves that go to the spinal cord. I think they work better than oral meds for some people.
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MrsD....I have not gotten my numbers from Latov in terms of levels. He is waiting for the results of the skin biopsy. Not a talkative guy...at any rate, I had had a panel done September, and my Vitamin B12 Serum was 592. And my B6 at the time was high at 28...three months later it is low?!?! I have been dieting (I need to lose 100 lbs, which I am sure will help the pain when I get there). My D levels were as follows:

Vitamin D, 1.25 Dihydroxy = 29 Range is 19 to 67
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, Total = 16 inidcated low 20 -100 is normal

Thanks and have a great 2009!!!
Dtiamin D 25-OH, D3 = 16
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, D2 <4


Vitamin E was right on target.

I am sorry I did not pay more attention in Chemistry class.

I am not even sure that this is all neuropathy, given that my pain DOES NOT get worse at night, and I sleep fine, and have no pain. Also, standing no pain. Wonder if real microcirculation issues are at hand. The pain is so annoying and that is why I was looking at the Neuro Essentials since the Lipoic Acid and Carnithine have proven helpful in some studies.

The other thing is an herb called horse chestnut which improves circulation. Who the heck knows!?
I have been thinking about this detail. If you are wearing tight clothing, tight belts, and sitting on your wallet on that side, this might be an entrapment issue.
Did you have injections on that side when you had the clot?
Did you have any dyes injected?
Some people react to dyes.

If you had a dye injected to visualize the clot, I'd look at antioxidant therapy. A good one today is curcumin which is showing in studies that it reduces endothelial inflammation (lining of blood vessels).
This product has good absorption values:
Curcu-gel:
http://www.epic4health.com/cuul500mgena.html
There are others: quercetin, grape seed extract and resveratrol all show promise.
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MrsD....I have not gotten my numbers from Latov in terms of levels. He is waiting for the results of the skin biopsy. Not a talkative guy...at any rate, I had had a panel done September, and my Vitamin B12 Serum was 592. And my B6 at the time was high at 28...three months later it is low?!?! I have been dieting (I need to lose 100 lbs, which I am sure will help the pain when I get there). My D levels were as follows:

Vitamin D, 1.25 Dihydroxy = 29 Range is 19 to 67
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, Total = 16 inidcated low 20 -100 is normal

Thanks and have a great 2009!!!
Dtiamin D 25-OH, D3 = 16
Vitamin D, 25-Oh, D2 <4


Vitamin E was right on target.

I am sorry I did not pay more attention in Chemistry class.

I am not even sure that this is all neuropathy, given that my pain DOES NOT get worse at night, and I sleep fine, and have no pain. Also, standing no pain. Wonder if real microcirculation issues are at hand. The pain is so annoying and that is why I was looking at the Neuro Essentials since the Lipoic Acid and Carnithine have proven helpful in some studies.

The other thing is an herb called horse chestnut which improves circulation. Who the heck knows!?
Mark,
I was diagnosed with mild sensory, motor idiopathic PN. I also have no problems at night, only when I am off my feet, walking is ok. I do not have the tingling while walking. Maybe our PN will disapear, just like it came, abruptly. I still find it hard to believe that I got this monster, mine is mild too, I feel terrible for people with severe PN. This is terrible. I started my vitamin regimen also, I also have an appt at the Univ Of Chicago Jack Miller, suppose to be tops In Peripheral Neuropathy. hope it helps Good Luck, and keep us informed, Lynn
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University of Chicago. Don't go there, I am grad, and look what happened to me.

Just kidding, there is great research coming out of there, and the docs look like they are top flight. U need to find the right meds in the meantime while you work on the other healthy component.

Be well, and great luck to you.

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I hope you like J.M. they are very good.

Like others you have put a smile on my face as wel, Mark thank you.
Wondering if or when you drink does your feet itch? Drinking is on the
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walk like i'm drunk. Please visit again. Sue
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