All of the cabbage family have goitrogenic potential:
http://www.ithyroid.com/goitrogens.htm

I think it is a matter of degree--of how much consumed... and I don't think cooking changes this potential. Some is probably okay, but excessive amounts would be problematic.

Thank you Mrs. D.

[QUOTE=NeuroLogic;838081]I think you are right and the reason is:

"The long-term presence of excess cytokines is very damaging, and many scientific antennae are now tuned into cytokines as the factor which prevents mitochondria from repairing themselves. Major stimulants of excess cytokine production certainly include viruses and other infections, but once the infection has healed, cytokine production should cease. In M.E., arthritis and other chronic diseases for some reason it appears that it does not."

I wonder if my osteoarthritis in my fingers the culprit of my neuropathy. Before the onset of my symptoms, I was taking Plaquenil. On my 7th week, I had the terrible, painful pins and needles in my legs and arms and back. My rheumatologist asked me to stop Plaquenil. But even when I stopped the medicine, my symptoms progressed. I stopped seeing my rheuma and I am now concentrated on my neuropathy, pursuing on tests after tests; referrals after referrals to specialists. I thought of suspending my treatment of the osteoarthritis as it might aggravate the nerves. What is your thoughts on this?

I wonder if this could explain the common problem of those with peripheral neuropathy, i.e., getting too hot, and failure to sweat.

I dont sweat. The only time I sweat (a little) is when I am on my last minutes of doing my stationary bicycle. However, I have this problem of constantly feeling cold. Its hard to describe the sensation because the cold feeling is not in my whole body. Its just on the areas where the prickly and stabbing pins and needles are concentrated on - that is my legs and arms. The coldness will last only for seconds. I am so hypersensitive to cold objects.I dont know if this part of my - according to my neurologist SFN. The SFN is yet to be confirmed with my skin biopsy.

I will appreciate if you can share with me some of your thoughts.
Thank you.

Mrs. D,

May I ask if supplements/vitamins for either damage of mito or axon are the same, or are there specific supplements that work for mito only and another kind of supplements for axonal damage?

Thank you for reply.

Damage to axons involves repair of the myelin sheath. This is done with B12, methylfolate, B6 and essential fatty acids (fish/krill oil). Those are the basic core for repair. Antioxidants are also helpful.
Supplements listed on MS sites often have a long list of vitamins to help. There are many such sites with recommendations.
example:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/m...sis-000111.htm

The mitochondria, involve chemical support of their functions.
CoQ-10, acetyl carnitine, lipoic acid, etc.
Information about mito support is still rather new and incomplete.

There is a whole book devoted to this written by a doctor. Dr. Terry Wahl's. It is called "Minding my Mitochondria." It is all about repairing the nerves and mitochondria. She had MS, badly and it is now actve and teaching others what she did. Lots of good videos from her on YouTube also.

Doesnt resveratrol stimulate mitochondria ?

see here

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Many antioxidants can help mitochondria as they quench oxygen free radicals that result from the chemical reactions that make ATP (energy). The list is very long, including resevertrol, grapeseed extract and curcumin etc. Lots of foods contain antioxidants...like strawberries and blueberries. Any fruit or veggie of "color".

I just read this today on another forum I like to snoop on.

Interestingly the bottom poster who had been taking them for statin damage seems to have had good results.

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Another interesting thread elsewhere

I responded well to lithium orotate but it also relaxed my smooth muscle which gives me big problems
Huperzine - never tried but I know its very pop with the Nootropic crowd
Agmatine - again never tried ( I use Arginine for muscoskeletal issues )
Progesterone - wild yam seem to have a negative effect for me.
N20 - Too many bad side effects

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