[MelodyL]

Originally Posted by mrsD

Yes, she is no longer going to be making enough intrinsic factor, or eating foods high in B12 it looks like. She will also not have enough acid in her stomach to help with absorption of B12, folate, calcium, iron, zinc, and magnesium (and who knows what else).

Most bariatric patients suffer from lost Omega-3 fats, and many nutrients. It is a drastic way to lose weight, and over time has terrible trade offs.

I agree but it was her decision and it's not reversible. They were not able to do lap band on her so she feels she had to go this route.

I can't bring this up to her (about the Methyl B-12). I know what I can't say and what I can say. If she brings it up to me, then it will because she asked me the question and I can then respond with: "Oh, I've read this on my one of my message boards about when one has bariatric surgery like the sleeve, one loses intrinsic factor, etc. etc.

This is the only way I can tell her about stuff like this.

And thanks very much.

Oh, by the way, this a.m. my sugar was 82. Still doing the fenugreek tea before bed time. Thank god I found this out.

lol

[Jolina]

what do people think of going to see a naturpath dr and a neurologist. do you think seeing both would work. My issues started 4 weeks ago with tinglling and all over body sensetivity. then one night the icy hot feeling on my feet and hands started. that is when I saw the dr and they just said take b12. and wait a few months. I however call the neurologist and was in two days later to talk with her. she wanted to wait a few weeks and I go into do a emg and a ncs next friday. not sure after that what she will do. I started taking 200 gabapentin three times a day last sat. Yesterday was a bad day. burning all day and then woke up at 3am with burning. I have three small kids ad am already going down hill mentally. I just dont know what to do. this all came on so fast and I am lost.

[mrsD]

I'd do the B12 correctly and wait 3 months to see what happens.

Do the tests the Neuro ordered and see what shows up.

If you do too many things at once you won't know which is working or not. You can watch your diet in the meantime and avoid sugar. That makes burning much worse for some people.

You can do a trial of gluten free and see if that works. Naturopaths often try to sell you lots of supplements to start, and you'd want to see how the B12 works alone, in the beginning.
You can always go later IMO.

You can have your doctor test your Vit D level too and correct that if it is low. Low D can cause problems.

[Jolina]

Originally Posted by mrsD

I'd do the B12 correctly and wait 3 months to see what happens.

Do the tests the Neuro ordered and see what shows up.

If you do too many things at once you won't know which is working or not. You can watch your diet in the meantime and avoid sugar. That makes burning much worse for some people.

You can do a trial of gluten free and see if that works. Naturopaths often try to sell you lots of supplements to start, and you'd want to see how the B12 works alone, in the beginning.
You can always go later IMO.

You can have your doctor test your Vit D level too and correct that if it is low. Low D can cause problems.

Question on the b-12. my healthfood store has a coenzyme Lonzenge that is 2500mcg methylcobalamin. will that work the same if I take two.?? or does it have to be a pill

[mrsD]

That's okay....you will probably pay more for it that way, but it is not that expensive after all.

You can chew them up and swallow-- on an empty stomach. That part is very important.

[californiafriend]

Hey guys, ive been reading these posts and since everyone here seems so knowledgable about B12 i was hoping you might be able to answer a question I had blood work done that showed that i was low RBC count and high MCV and MCH which my dr. thought i could be B12 deficient but it just so happened i started taking a high sublingual B12 suppliment the day that i took the blood test which made my b12 levels over 1400H! So my question is, is it possible that (if i was B12 deficient) that the levels could move up that high after just a few doses of a b12 suppliment?

[MelodyL]

Originally Posted by californiafriend

Hey guys, ive been reading these posts and since everyone here seems so knowledgable about B12 i was hoping you might be able to answer a question I had blood work done that showed that i was low RBC count and high MCV and MCH which my dr. thought i could be B12 deficient but it just so happened i started taking a high sublingual B12 suppliment the day that i took the blood test which made my b12 levels over 1400H! So my question is, is it possible that (if i was B12 deficient) that the levels could move up that high after just a few doses of a b12 suppliment?

Hi.

you said:

" i started taking a high sublingual B12 suppliment the day that i took the blood test"

So that's ONE dose, right?

you also said: " is it possible that (if i was B12 deficient) that the levels could move up that high after just a few doses of a b12 suppliment?"

So was it ONE dose, or a FEW doses?

I'm not an expert, Mrs. D is the expert, but I really don't think that ONE dose or a few for that matter, of an oral B-12 supplement could get you to that number.

I'm sure Mrs. D will come along and give us the correct info.

I'm curious as to what the answer actually is.

I'm still learning.

lol Melody

[kwinkler]

Originally Posted by californiafriend

Hey guys, ive been reading these posts and since everyone here seems so knowledgable about B12 i was hoping you might be able to answer a question I had blood work done that showed that i was low RBC count and high MCV and MCH which my dr. thought i could be B12 deficient but it just so happened i started taking a high sublingual B12 suppliment the day that i took the blood test which made my b12 levels over 1400H! So my question is, is it possible that (if i was B12 deficient) that the levels could move up that high after just a few doses of a b12 suppliment?

It would all depend on timing. If you took the SL B12 fairly close to the blood draw, it would falsely elevate the value. I have experienced this with get my niacin levels checked. It is actually short lived in the blood in detectable levels. If I took it the night before it would be below the detectable level. If I supplemented in the AM it would be detected. I usually hold supplementation for a day or two prior to testing to get a more accurate measure of what my true levels are.

[capewind]

I am new at this but a blood test gives results of what is currently in blood stream. I could only find the 1000mcg Methylcobalamon ( important to use this form!) at my store. Have them ordering the 1/5 mg tabs. Heard that hard to get to high on a reading since it is water soluble. Empty stomache very important. I need to know if I should chew them or swallow??? I am going to start with 5,000 mcgs daily. I may take some AM and noonish. Any feedback enjoyed! I wonder if there are all kinds of crazy viruses that docs do not know of that are causing so much PN?

[mrsD]

Might be "crazy viruses". But also CRAZY drugs given to you by your dense doctor too! Or unnecessary vaccines!