Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-29-2009, 01:23 AM #11
jarrett622's Avatar
jarrett622 jarrett622 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Galax, Va
Posts: 651
15 yr Member
jarrett622 jarrett622 is offline
Member
jarrett622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Galax, Va
Posts: 651
15 yr Member
Default

Wow! Never saw that coming! I'll be interested to hear how this goes...
__________________
We are not amused.
.
jarrett622 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 08:46 AM #12
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
Default Double crush hypothesis material:

http://www.chiroweb.com/mpacms/dc/article.php?id=39083

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3275922

http://www.searchmedica.com/xmlresou...f250d&t=pubmed

http://www.ejbjs.org/cgi/reprint/72/1/85

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...TRY=1&SRETRY=0


And one can get a lot more through sources such as Google Scholar.
glenntaj is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
MelodyL (05-29-2009)
Old 05-29-2009, 09:54 AM #13
MelodyL's Avatar
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
MelodyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
Default



Glen:

One of the articles mentioned the following:

"Since double crush may include two or more entrapments, careful investigation is paramount to successful treatment. It has been my experience, as well as that of Mariano et al., that double crush syndrome can and does respond to chiropractic management that includes: spine and extraspinal manipulation, myofascial release adjunctive physiotherapies and rehabilitative exercises. Many times peripheral entrapments may occur within the myofascial planes of certain muscles ( i.e., pronator teres syndrome), and responds well to myofascial release technique as described by Eahey et al."

As I said before, when Alan leaves Dr. Theirl's office after his manipulations, Alan can move mountains.

I shall read all the other articles and I bless you for this.

Melody

P.S. For those who don't know what a G5 machine that chiros use, looks like, I just googled it.

Here's a link.

http://www.g5.com/products/gk-3/
__________________

.


CONSUMER REPORTER
SPROUT-LADY



.

Last edited by MelodyL; 05-29-2009 at 10:34 AM.
MelodyL is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 03:45 PM #14
cyclelops's Avatar
cyclelops cyclelops is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,049
15 yr Member
cyclelops cyclelops is offline
Magnate
cyclelops's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,049
15 yr Member
Default

I have a hemangioma of T4.

I was told they are benign and a common finding as we age.

I was also told that thoracic discs don't herniate....for about 15 years, then I finally got a doc to do an MRI...he told me it would be normal. It was not....and T spine lesions do hurt.

However, it unless the hemangioma is messing with the spine, it is likely going to be classified as a benign intervertebral lesion of aging.

Aging stinks.
cyclelops is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 04:15 PM #15
cyclelops's Avatar
cyclelops cyclelops is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,049
15 yr Member
cyclelops cyclelops is offline
Magnate
cyclelops's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,049
15 yr Member
Default

Well, a few things come to mind....some type of hyperostosis, basically out of control bone growth....mostly I am thinking of his foot....another thing,
cherry angiomas, well, they do occur as we age...(there is that word again), however, if he has had them for a long time, and given his sister has them, has he been tested for Fabrys?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dif...stosis/DS00740

http://www.fabrycommunity.com/patien...abry-signs.asp

Just a thought, you can check these sites out and see if anything rings a bell.

So, will they continue the IVIG?
cyclelops is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 04:42 PM #16
MelodyL's Avatar
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
MelodyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
Default

Hi there Cyclelops:

I checked out both sites. VERY INTERESTING. But he doesn't have any of the symptoms (thank goodness). But who knows. We discover new things every day. His sister has morton's neuroma and gets trigger point injections but they really don't help her. She told me yesterday that she puts a Poland Springs water bottle in the freezer and rolls it back and forth under her feet. Never knew this.

As far as IVIG, they are going to wean him off. So We shall see.

BUT I HAVE NEW NEWS!!!!!

We just came back from Dr. Fred.

In February Alan's PSA was 4.38. Of course we got scared, he went to urologist who wanted to do a biopsy we we went back to Dr. Fred and he said "take it easy, let's wait and see" and we did.

Well, I've been SPROUTING ALAN TO DEATH. I grow my own broccoli sprouts in my kitchen and we eat them EVERY DAY. So Alan's been eating my sprout patties (with tomato sauce),

We got his latest PSA result today.

3.11

WE ARE STILL SPROUTING!!!!

He's still going to eat tomato sauce on his food..

I told Dr. Fred. Next time Alan comes in, his PSA will be .2.5

He replied, I BELIEVE YOU, WITH YOUR SPROUTING.

So we shall continue to cross our fingers and toes. Hope you are good.

lol

Melody
__________________

.


CONSUMER REPORTER
SPROUT-LADY



.
MelodyL is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 06:49 AM #17
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb

That is great Mel, about the PSA levels coming down.

The back? Well, if it is not progressing, then I wouldn't do anything. I am very conservative that way.

I went to a pain conference yesterday, and the speakers were all in agreement about another spine problem, called Arnold Chiari malformation. They said that the increase in surgical fixes for this congenital malformation lead to increased pain and headache for many of the patients. The doctors yesterday said that they felt this procedure was not necessary in many of the patients that undergo it. (ie. rush to surgery does not always fix things).
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 10:27 AM #18
MelodyL's Avatar
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
MelodyL MelodyL is offline
Wise Elder
MelodyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,292
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
That is great Mel, about the PSA levels coming down.

The back? Well, if it is not progressing, then I wouldn't do anything. I am very conservative that way.

I went to a pain conference yesterday, and the speakers were all in agreement about another spine problem, called Arnold Chiari malformation. They said that the increase in surgical fixes for this congenital malformation lead to increased pain and headache for many of the patients. The doctors yesterday said that they felt this procedure was not necessary in many of the patients that undergo it. (ie. rush to surgery does not always fix things).

I agree. Alan has the ball under his foot. He is supposed to roll it back and forth.
DOES HE DO THIS?? No!!! I found the ball stuck under the wheels of the computer chair.

I started yelling 'YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ROLL THE BALL".

He exclaimed "Oh my g*d, first she has me eating sprouts, now I'm rolling a ball".

We both laughed.

I'm sitting here with the ball under MY FOOT.

It feels good.

And I'm curious about the PSA thing. Why would it go down? Why does eating lots of anti-oxidant rich foods and taking lycopene, well how does this affect PSA?

I'm going to broccoli sprout this man to death.

lol

Oh, you'll be interested to know how much fish oil capsules our doctor takes every day.

We told the doctor that we take certain supplements and that includes fish oil. We take one pill each.

Dr. F said "Want to know how much I take?? 4 grams!!!"

I looked at him and said 'YOU TAKE 4000 A DAY??" he said

"Yup, I take two capsules in the morning and two at night'.

I said 'Alan is on plavix and aspirin, wouldn't that be conra-indicated?" (he knew I meant the bleeding".

He said 'Oh you mean you're afraid of the bleeding?" and I said 'well, yeah, what might happen?"

He said: "The benefits of taking all that fish oil OUTWEIGHS any risk of bleeding, and though you might see black and blues, just derease it to 3 capsules".

We said "okay".

Alan went home and immediately added 2 more to his nightly regimin and I just asked him "how many will you now take?" and he said "4 a day".

I said "okay", I am doing this slowly.

I am doing two a day, and will go up to 4.

I don't know what reactions my body (my stomach I mean), will have if I go immediately to 4.

I also told the doctor that we take Vitamin D. He said "excellent".

So, besides my pills, SPROUTING WE SHALL GO!!!

lol
__________________

.


CONSUMER REPORTER
SPROUT-LADY



.
MelodyL is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
mrsD (05-30-2009)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
not much has changed vini Creative Corner 1 04-02-2009 07:30 AM
Can I get my name changed? Jason Community & Forum Feedback 1 10-06-2007 10:57 AM
Changed... colombiangirl1 Creative Corner 0 03-11-2007 08:13 PM
Fibromyalgia Syndrome: Presentation, Diagnosis, and Differential Diagnosis firemonkey Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue 0 11-19-2006 09:51 PM
Surgery changed mamafigure Neuromuscular 8 11-13-2006 11:04 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.