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Old 12-21-2006, 09:34 AM #11
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Blush interesting hypothesis...

David.

Arginine is in OTC Viagra-like ED products used orally. I don't know if it is strong enough tho to apply topically.

There are studies using liquid Viagra and women, but I won't go there either
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I used HethiBetic for several month. I did not feel any heat and did not detect any benefits.
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Default Shaving an orange peel...

Yes indeed, it is just like that, maybe a little deeper-but not enough to bleed if done correctly. It leaves you with very soft feet and a big, yukky pile of dead skin on a towel... They use a special razor with a new blade each time...

Actually, I am not sure that they are supposed to be doing that, but it makes my feet feel so much better, I try not to consider that...

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Default Cathie: It's that or...

develop cracks [fissues] that are prone to infections and worse nasty stuff. On top of that, all that callous can block up sweat glands-which in turn can acquire badness you don't want to consider. Replay all those diabetic foot problem horror stories you've ever heard.

I see my podiatrist more than my neuro. He is my best barometer on how I'm doing...and a good measurer of any progress. At times THERE IS SOME! - j
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Exclamation Healthibetic Foot Cream

In reply to the poster who wonders how effictive Healthibetic foot cream is...

Hello. I have used HealthiBetic foot cream for the past 5 years and am completely satisfied with it. I noticed that Foot Smart is selling a less expensive product called Healthifeet foot cream. The packaging is exactly the same but there seems to be a significant difference in the ingredients. Unlike Healthibetic, Healthifeet does NOT list L-arginine as an active ingredient. It does mention L-arginine in its add but in the list of ingredients it does not list L-arginine. Does anybody know if this is the same product? Or is it an expensive imposter. I don't want to spend money on a "look-alike" product if it isn't exactly as effective as healthibetic.
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This may seem like a strange question, but how many PNers are struggling with psoriasis or similar conditions? Does any one besides me have oncholysis in their nails, along with issues in their distal phalangeal joints? My fingernail thing isn't just a fingernail issue, as the joint is also involved...It is the bird finger, left hand....pretty ugly site these days.

I don't want to highjack the thread, but it seems to be going the way of discussion of skin related stuff anyway.
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In reply to the poster who wonders how effictive Healthibetic foot cream is...

Hello. I have used HealthiBetic foot cream for the past 5 years and am completely satisfied with it. I noticed that Foot Smart is selling a less expensive product called Healthifeet foot cream. The packaging is exactly the same but there seems to be a significant difference in the ingredients. Unlike Healthibetic, Healthifeet does NOT list L-arginine as an active ingredient. It does mention L-arginine in its add but in the list of ingredients it does not list L-arginine. Does anybody know if this is the same product? Or is it an expensive imposter. I don't want to spend money on a "look-alike" product if it isn't exactly as effective as healthibetic.
This product--- lists l-arginine...
http://www.footsmart.com/P-Healthife...-oz-50364.aspx
The little PDF that comes up for this product only lists INactive ingredients.--and hidden in there is capsicum!
This causes burning for many of us.

I am trying to find the exact amount of l-arginine in each cream. Not having any luck.
However Healthibetic is a Canadian product, and may have a different name here--Healthifeet?

Notice that the thermal imaging does not show any improvements in the toe/ball of the foot area:
http://www.healthibetic.ca/healthibetic/prodinform.html

Here--- finally I found the website for Healthifeet cream--
No actual amount (%) of the included arginine is listed however, but they do have a toll free # you can call:
http://www.argininewellness.com/healthifeet.html
Notice in the lower left hand corner... both names appear!
Healthibetic/Healthifeet
I suspect they are the same. And look carefully at the tube...the large picture. Both names appear on the tube too.
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Thank you, mrsD, for the information. I didn't think to look at thier website, but the little pop-up list of ingredients didn't list L-arginine. Well, I guess I can go ahead and place an order for the less expensive Healthifeet cream. $19.95 isn't bad. Some of these products are so expensive but as long as they work I'll keep buying. I think the rule of thumb is the closer an ingredient is listed to the top of the list, the bigger the amount in the product. I know that doesn't answer your question about the % of L-arginine in the product, but the ingredients list of the two products are virtually identical. I'm an RN and I am on my feet for much of my 12 hour shifts. Before I discovered Healthibetic I really thought I'd have to retire from nursing. Healthibetic has made a huge difference - the burning is now gone. Before Healthibetic I was trying everything to turn off the blow torches on my toes - moisturizing creams, foot powders, many different socks, and a fortune in different shoes. Nothing Worked. It's really amazing how L-arginine (I believe) has stopped the burning. I noticed how several people on this board have mentioned Methyl B12. I am already taking Folic Acid and I think I'll give Methyl B12 a try. Maybe there is NO magic bullet. Maybe it is a combination of little things that take away the nasty symptoms of neurothapy. We just have to find the right combination. Good Luck, and Thanks.

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Thank you, mrsD, for the information. I didn't think to look at thier website, but the little pop-up list of ingredients didn't list L-arginine. Well, I guess I can go ahead and place an order for the less expensive Healthifeet cream. $19.95 isn't bad. Some of these products are so expensive but as long as they work I'll keep buying. I think the rule of thumb is the closer an ingredient is listed to the top of the list, the bigger the amount in the product. I know that doesn't answer your question about the % of L-arginine in the product, but the ingredients list of the two products are virtually identical. I'm an RN and I am on my feet for much of my 12 hour shifts. Before I discovered Healthibetic I really thought I'd have to retire from nursing. Healthibetic has made a huge difference - the burning is now gone. Before Healthibetic I was trying everything to turn off the blow torches on my toes - moisturizing creams, foot powders, many different socks, and a fortune in different shoes. Nothing Worked. It's really amazing how L-arginine (I believe) has stopped the burning. I noticed how several people on this board have mentioned Methyl B12. I am already taking Folic Acid and I think I'll give Methyl B12 a try. Maybe there is NO magic bullet. Maybe it is a combination of little things that take away the nasty symptoms of neurothapy. We just have to find the right combination. Good Luck, and Thanks.

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Ever since my son had Mono...he's had Raynaud's in his hands and feet...comes and goes. I just sent him an email to
try this too. So thanks for bringing it up.

I have some cold feet issues too, ever since I was diagnosed hypothyroid. The Synthroid helps, but I have residual spells of cold still. My doctor just switched my blood pressure meds around a bit, and now I am on Imdur 30mg/day. It has done wonders for my cold feet! In fact my "cold everything" this winter! You might try a nitrate and see if that helps you.
(I had to titrate slowly up to the 30...from 15mg a 1/2 tab.)..as the headache was ferocious...for about 3 days. Caffeine seemed to help that too. But my cold feet are not cold anymore! And my BPs are better too.
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