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I was approved for SSDI benefit in 2011 for chronic depression. I am currently 59 years old and working for the last seven months under TWP .I have been visiting different Doctors on regular basis for different ailments since my approval date. However, I only saw my psychiatrist only twice last year. My question is does it matter what kind of Doctor I see while I remain disable or do I need continue to see my psychiatrist whose speciality is directly related to my disability for the purpose of potential CDR?

I'm no expert, but if you are considered disabled due to depression - I would think it would be necessary to stay under the care of your psychiatrist. If you are able to function ok without care, it might be taken to mean you are improving.

I thought being on TWP meant you won't have a CDR...

A Trial Work Period does not make you exempt from a CDR. Enrolling in the Ticket To Work Program would exempt you from a medical CDR, but not one that is already scheduled.

What is a Trial Work Period? How does that differ from just working?

As for seeing the same doctor? I have not seen a doctor in 10 years. I manage OK on my own. Got a great wife now. They help with my day-to-day life. Working? Impossible. Not even part time.

Not taking meds, nor seeing a doctor will not effect me, will it?

Go to www.socialsecurity.gov and search for work incentives, the Red Book or the trial work period. Plenty of information there. But if you are not working and don't intend to return to work, the trial work period does not apply to you.

Not taking meds nor seeing a doctor means that there are no medical treating sources that can confirm that there is even anything wrong with you and if SSA does a review, you run a really really good chance of being ceased.

If you manage OK on your own, how is it impossible for you to work and other than your own statements or your wife's statements, where is the proof? Your opinion will never, ever be sufficient for Social Security. Never. So if SSA asks for proof that you are still disabled, you will not be able to provide anything from a medical treating source and that is required. SSA would then send you for a one time snapshot appointment with a strange doctor to see if you have any diagnosable conditions and figure out in that one exam just how bad it is. Or isn't.

If you are married and living with your wife and are on SSI in addition to SSDI, her income needs to be reported to SSI. Or you may end up owing money back. You should go in person to your local office to sort this stuff out.

Not getting medical treatment is a really bad, really foolish idea for a person who says they are too medically disabled to hold a job. Bad choice. But yours to make. And you did ask for opinions.

It is impossible for me to work, because I am disabled. That should be obvious.

If I will get taken off my benefits immediately for not receiving treatment, how come that has never happened yet in over 10 years? That also has never come up during my reviews.

How do we find out what my wife's income is? How do we GET her income? Everyone tells us this, but never tells us how to get it.

I have been to the local office scores of times. Sorted nothing out.

What you think is obvious, what I think is obvious has zero to do with what SSA considers obvious, which is pretty much nothing is obvious and everything has to be proved. If you haven't seen a doctor in 10 years, you are self-diagnosing and that never works during a Continuing Disability Review. You have been lucky that a CDR was not done. That luck may not last forever.

I thought you said you had just started receiving benefits but perhaps I misunderstood because you talk about reviews in the last 10 years. Were you getting SSI only and then SSA discovered that you should have been getting SSDI? So it could be that SSA figured out that you were insured for SSDI and only recently took the SSDI application and only recently entitled you and then used then adopted the disability decision on the SSI claim and not have had to again prove disability. That is also called a legal term collateral estoppel (may have spelled that wrong).

I was referring to reporting the income that your wife already receives since it could affect your SSI benefits. It is also possible that she doesn't make enough from her jobs or whatever she uses to support herself.

If she wants to file a claim for spousal benefits on SSDI and you want to file for the ten children the two of you have and , she needs to make an appointment and bring everyone's birth certificates, proof of who has custody and the marriage certificate. If these are stepchildren to you, you have to prove that you supported them in the past. You may not be able to prove that. Also, not all SSDI cases result in a family maximum that is over the amount paid to you. Sometimes children and spouses get zero. In those stacks of letters you have received, perhaps there is a denial letter for spousal or children benefits.

SSDI is not a welfare program so there are no provisions for what you need or want to support your 12 person family. If there is not enough income from the parents, then the choice is other welfare benefits like TANF.

If you have been to the SSA office scores of times, the likelihood is that everything has been sorted out correctly but you don't like the results or don't understand them.

No. I got everything the same day. SSDI and SSI. No clue about all the other things you were talking about.

Where does my wife work? How do we get her money?

SSDI does not have spousal benefits. It is just the opposite. It is spousal deduction. Which makes no sense.

We have 3 kids. Not 10. And no number of children give you "spousal benefits".

Why should we receive a denial letter for something we never filed for? Or for something that does not exist?

If you are on either SSDI or SSI, you automatically are disqualified from from programs like TANF.

What is it I do not understand? Or do not like? I came here for help. It seems you are the one who needs assistance...

There are potential family benefits for SSI/SSDI recipients with children. http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dfamily.htm#fmax

And those that receive SSI often automatically qualify for many welfare programs (it varies by state) like SNAP.

I suggest you find your paperwork, or call the offices you have talked with and ask for copies of your paperwork.
Then you will know more about your case/claim/status.
Or signing up online might be an option to see your records/paperwork.

There just isn't enough basic info on your case/claim for anyone to help you, so we can't really answer your questions.

You paperwork does not state your disability on it. I think that would be discrimination per ADA.

Neither does one's online account.

I have been told many times that family member do not receive any benefits at all. Unless they also qualify as disabled under the SSA criteria. My wife is disabled. Just not under SSA standards. At least at this time.

I would never get disability for my children! There is a mandated treatment program. I don't want the government telling me how to raise my kids.

I provided a link. If you read it, you would understand I was not suggesting that you have your children apply for disability, but rather that SS provides additional funds for a beneficiary's children and/or spouse caring for children. There is no requirement that the children be disabled, or receive treatment, and nor will the government tell you "how to raise them" anymore than a citizen not receiving benefits. The money needs to be spent on them and not on the other adults living with you, but that is not an unreasonable expectation. If you are unable to manage how the benefits are spent, a representative payee should be considered.

If you are unable to understand this information, than contact SS directly or an advocate. If you have a legitimate claim, your children could be entitled to substantial backpay.

When an applicant is awarded a Fully Favorable decision, it states what disability or disabilities qualified them for benefits.

My award letter gave no indication of the reason for why I was being given disability. I can only guess, I have a long psychiatric history with a laundry list of maladies ranging from bi polar to major depression, narcolepsy, anxiety, social phobia it goes on and on but on no paperwork from SSA did it ever say expressly what reason I was considered disabled.

It's coded at the bottom if not stated directly in the decision.

I've heard others say that before, but seriously there is no code, no letters no numbers, no bar code, nothing, no indication whatsoever on my letter stating why I was awarded SSDI. Its just says "based on our findings you are disabled" and later its says a "review will be done in 5 to seven years." Thats it. No reason given.

My official approval letter did not state my disabilities on it either. But there is a barcode on the side and a small QR box on each page,, maybe that is their coding?? The letter I received telling me that I met the medical requirements did in fact list all of my disabilities on it.

when you get a long form or short form cdr it will defintely have the disability codes on there.

FYI There are two computations done with the earnings record. One is the PIA, primary insurance amount and the other is the FMAX, the family maximum. In disability claims for individuals who have just enough earning to become insured, the PIA can equal the FMAX which means nothing can be paid to the children or spouse. Best way to find out is to file a claim.

I would never get disability for my children! There is a mandated treatment program. I don't want the government telling me how to raise my kids

SSA does not have a mandated treatment program for disability recipients because if there was such a program, your benefits would have stopped long ago since you don't get treatment.

And let's hope that your children are never found to be disabled. Healthy and strong, yes. Disabled, no.

I'm currently going through a CDR review and see the codes you are referencing about. I recognize my SS#, my year of birth, report period start date, and the local SSA office address that I'm dealing with.

How do I find out what the other codes mean?

look at section 8 in the link below
https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms....1!opendocument

here are diagnosis codes

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0426510015

I'm unable to open the first link--which happens with SS links at times. If you can correct it and post both in the stickies for future reference, that would be a great help! TY.

Both links worked for me. Perhaps try a different browser? I used Safari.

For that top link I get this message on my screen (browser is firefox) (also tested it with Comodo Ice Dragon browser- same message)
I don't know if that is because it is some other site and is not a government website??


screen message-

[This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked Firefox to connect securely to s044a90.ssa.gov, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.
What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.]

https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms....1!opendocument

try it again. i has a lot of important information. its definitely a social security official site.


8. “Scanline” data

The scannable mailer includes barcoded information as well as three lines of scannable data on the front of the mailer, immediately below the telephone number and claim number. These scanlines contain substantial information:
Scanline 1 –
Field 1 – Social Security Number under which the mailer is being controlled

Field 2 – Beneficiary Identification Code (BIC) (Title II), or

Individual Recipient Identification code (ID) (Title XVI)

Field 3 – Year of beneficiary's birth

Field 4 – Year of most recent prior CDR

Field 5 – Primary and Secondary Diagnosis Codes


Scanline 2 –
Field 1 – Medical Diary Reason/Type

Field 2 – Concurrent Entitlement information

Field 3 – Profile Type (High, Medium, or Low)

Field 4 – Profiling SCORE (9999 is highest)

Field 5 – Report Period covered by the mailer

Field 6 – Scanning Form Identification Code (SFIC) (describes if it is a first or second request mailer, whether it is Title II, concurrent, or Title XVI-only, and whether the beneficiary prefers a non-English language notice).

Field 7 – Servicing Processing Center

Field 8 – Servicing State Agency/DDS code

Field 9 – Servicing Field Office (FO) Code


Scanline 3 –
Field 1 – Servicing FO City Name

Field 2 – Servicing FO State

Field 3 – Servicing FO ZIP CODE

I have already contacted the SSA about the benefits you mention. They said there is no such thing as benefits through me for my kids or spouse. In fact, since getting married and having kids, I get less. It went from $900 a month to $600. Which does not make sense to me why you get spousal and dependent deductions...

The only other option they said I could do is file SSI for my children as being disabled. Which comes with the obligation to allow the SSA to dictate mandatory treatment....

I have not received a "Fully Favorable decision", unless that is forum language?

I have never yet received anything that lists a disability on it. I do not know where to find it. Nor how to go about getting it. Surely I can ask them. But that would just seem awkward...

Thank you! :)

Same as me. Only thing. Never heard the 5-7 year thing. It has been...11 years? No review. Do you have to be in one place for 5-7 years? One office? I move to a new place every few months or so.

Is CDR forum speak for something? Never heard of this.... :(

I am good at figuring things out.

But...translation please?

Also, first link says it is not trusted for me as well.

I read your link. But what office is this at? Each office has their own rules. This may apply at one office. It likely does not apply at the office we are going to. I have been to several offices inquiring about family benefits. It seems to be mostly a legend. Just like the mythical "back pay" you mention. I hear lots of fantastical stories about back pay, yet there is no such thing. Any SSA worker will tell you back pay does not exist. Also, I have been to an SS specialty attorney that said back pay only existed for a few cases in California in the 1970's. Since then? Nothing.

I wish there was something though. Most of my friends pay $2,000 a month for a bachelor pad. We pay all our expenses on a mere $600 a month for a family of 4 and are told we are "wealthy and arrogant" when we attempt to apply for other benefits like SNAP, which disabled families are not allowed to receive...:(

NoCmpassion, I sent you a very long private message about the issues you have brought up. Hope it helps you in understanding these complex programs of SSI and SSDI.

as a point of information as far as profile score or type goes, the lower the score, the less chance of a full cdr (long form). the low type or score indicates chances of improvement.

Thank you. *admin edit*

BTW- It seems I have explained things to you :winky:

nocmpassion a cdr is a continuing disability review which can be sent out every 1-7 years depending usually on wether they think you have the possibility of improving medically to the point of returning to work.

nocmpassion below is a line by line guide from social security on what the codes on the short or long form cdr mean