WWTFD? Computer acting buggy. Mac problems.
 

Hi, I upgraded my Mac to OSX Snow Leopard a couple of days ago.

Since then I twice had to unplug because the mouse stopped working and then I could not do an option / command / escape to shut down Safari. Usually Safari shuts down on my command when it starts acting stupid.

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Oh DARN! People at the Mac Snow Leopard (10.6.3) site have the same problems with the mouse that I have!!!! :confused: I liked Apple until today.

Anyone here use Lion (10.7) -- released two weeks ago???

M.

sorry we use dell PC. just switched from internet explorer to fire fox because we were having so many problems. runs much better now.
Sorry that you are having technical problems, really really don't like that!
bizi

Reinstall OSX
 

Do you have Original OSX install CDs - so you could downgrade to the previous version?

remember to pull your data off onto separate media first (USB key, external drive that is not the boot drive) A full install may want to reformat.

this is a general suggestion as i haven't worked recent mac systems and doen't know how they distribute their OS. if you haven't cross posted to the computer forum here i would do that too...

(((hugs)))

~ waves ~

Havent upgrade to lion and wont do.... Ugh, thosebupgrades scary me...

Mari i missed the last line of your post........

i would be very wary of installing something released only 2 weeks ago unless it is a specifically targeted "bug fix release" i.e., not a lot of new testing needed, besides the fix areas and sanity checks (oh and they did that so well with Snow Leopard, eh? :eek::rolleyes:)

Lion MAY have been released to fix precisely the bugs you are seeing in Snow Leopard... i would advise looking at the Lion release notes to see what bugs or improvements are included.

One last observation, from its release number, 10.7 (rather than 10.6.4), Lion seems like a full minor release and not a bug-fix release. However, sometimes they bump the numbering scheme to the next minor release to encourage ppl to upgrade from an icky release.

In any since, you are having problems, you could certainly try the upgrade, and if that doesn't improve things, go back to the previous version you were using.

these are generalities i have seen with various products, both those i've used and those i've worked on. Apple users may be aware of differences i am not, in how Apple does things.

~ waves ~

Waves,
That is helpful. I will look at the Lion release notes.

I started to look at the Apple boards. People are talking about the Lion version being the transition to Apple's brand new operation system.

Lion is out in Beta version. Some have problems. They are talking about backing up to the the previous install as you mentioned.
That is tricky for me. I don't want to do that -- especially since I did not back up with Time Machine before I did the install of Snow Leopard.
Hubby could do a reinstall on his own computer, but he can't do it for mine. The mouse is ok today. Maybe I need to find an Apple person to do the reinstall for me.

I need to sit on this for a while.

M.

Hi,

Fixing the mouse is way beyond my skill set.

This person has a list of things to do before I restarted. Duh. I restarted right after I down loaded.

http://www.sysprobs.com/fix-usb-mous...-update-vmware

I am going to choose to be depressed about this for a few days. Then I will come up with a plan later.

Oh. I found a youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgQjAn9l1-s
Post Installation Snow Leopard Iatkos s3 v2/Mouse fix tutorial

Apparently, the mouse problems manifest differently. Mine is not exactly the same as the youtube problem.

M.

having a tech fix it hands-on might be the least headache...
 

Mari,

in your first post, you said you were running Snow Leopard ... then made a reference to ppl on apple boards running Snow Leopard 10.6.3.

the document you found talks about problems with updating to 10.6.6:
Was it a typo/whatever-o, or are you actually running 10.6.3? Can you do an 'about' and tell me exactly what system version you are running?

things still confused about the vacation. sigh. i am torn. but if i left, it wouldn't be right away... meantime, i need to sit and think about other things. i can try to help you look things up. i may be able to make things more intelligible for you. a sort of tech go-between between.

that said, since system problems are delicate, the best solution for you might very well be to go to an apple store and have a tech evaluate and fix the problem. pretty sure they could, at a cost of course. this might be the least hair-pulling solution for you.

i am wondering if you keep your important documents all grouped in one or several folders, that you can identify. if so, you could simply copy these off elsewhere, without doing a full backup. (if you choose to send it in, i recommend you do this anyway.) then, at worst you'd lose system settings/preferences. but you could ask the tech if they could do a backup from where your machine/OS is at, and they might even be able to preserve those.

hang in there. it will be ok.

~ waves ~

From the "probably won't help but" corner.
 

I'm still using Snow Leopard. Won't install Lion till it's been out longer & the initial bugs have fixes. Never have used a mouse with the Mac. Only thing that might help: I've noticed that intermittent problems occur with Safari & I'll switch to Fire Fox. Problems vanish. Or vice versa. Not always, but often. Computers are weird like that, at least for me. Like changing out cables fixes a problem but I don't know why, or plugging into different electric.

I love computers but they treat me bad:winky:.

depressed
 

Waves,

Thank you.

My About says 10.6.8.

That is strange. The CD box I used says Snow Leopard (with a picture of the cat in snow) and says 10.6.3.
Is there a chance that apple gave me two updates?

I'm depressed today.

1. I woke up with something -- don't know -- I feel hot and foggy.

2. We have rain.

3. Work buddy and I were on the phone twice dealing with carp from work.

4. Hubby and I met my friend's widow's and son for early dinner and afterwards walked through a discount dept store.

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Hubby runs so wired. I have a difficult time being polite to him when I deal with others -- had to deal with hubby when I was on the phone and I came across sounding harsh -- hubby was rushing me to get out the door when we had plenty of time to get to the wife's house.. I feel bad that I am rough.

Then at dinner, I kept my mouth shut. I sat as quietly and politely as possible. I'm exhausted because that is hard work.
I'm sad because I miss my work friend. This time, I got his wife to tell me more about his early years before I knew him. She seemed to be ok talking about him. I appreciated that.
Hubby is exhausting. I exhaust myself anyway.
I'll be back here later.

M.

Dear JudeLauren,

That makes sense in a way.
I go to Opera when Safari is acting weird. Firefox has a problem with my email. I can't remember what it is right now.
The mouse seems to be working today.
Last night I was prompted to do a restart when either Microsoft or Apple (don't remember which) asked me to download updates AFTER I used my CD to load Snow Leopard.
Maybe something helped.

Do you use the keys or key pad instead of the mouse?

M.

Dear Mari

that does sound strange... did you do any online update after installing from CD? i am exhausted. will do web-scouting tomorrow.

i hate that hubby was being rushy. i am annoyed when i get rushed. i also find that i am much less controlled with ppl i know well than with others. the level of inhibition is lower i think that is why. then i get the slightest off kilter the ppl closest often get the brunt. it is normal even though then we feel guilty and sad about it.

that's nice about the conversation you had with your friends widow. it is as though you got to be with him a little, through her, in a new way. i am sorry for your grief. (((hug))))

i hope you feel less depressed tomorrow. i am sorry i could not help with the tech problems stonight i am just too goner, i have to go to bed. it's been a tumultuous afternoon/evenng. :o

~ waves ~

she was probably glad to talk about him....
rest when you can...
((((HUGS))))
bizi

Computers are so weird that i gotta love 'em.
That said, I use the mouse pad. Don't have a key pad.

Dear Waves,

I think disappointed for you about the cancelled vacation.

I hope that you make satisfying plans for your stay-cation.

M

depressed
 

Surprised at how depressed I am.

'Don't know what is going on.

M

Dear Mari

(((hugs))) i am sorry...

yes it is turning into a stay cation... have stay have go. oops. half.

i am sorry you are feeling so low. do you think it is about the computer stuff? sometimes it takes something only small or ... something that is beyond my control... can change my mood dramatically.

do something soothing for yourself. try and think of something uplifting. join me and let's take our minds for a fantasy promenade.... how about here..... ?

http://dl2.glitter-graphics.net/pub/...xxfij6p7pm.jpg

Oh, no! You too?
 

Don't know what's up with me either. Thought I was doing the right things, throwing the right things at it from my well-worn bag of tricks, but guess not. Another sleepless night. Brooded over everything. I'm like that beastly little dog, digging, digging, digging up dirty trouble, getting nowhere except into trouble.

Next will be sleeping sleeping sleeping sleeping then walking walking walking.

Called pdoc this morn. See him shortly after DAWN tomorrow. He's not in town today. I don't exist at dawn so we'll see whether I can find him, let alone see him.

More drugs no doubt. Hate drugs. Hate depressions. My 1st since bipolar dx 2yrs ago, following 1st psyc hospitalization.

Please take care, Mari. :circlelove: Please be better.

Depression is awful...I am sorry that you guys are in that pit...please know that we are here waiting to help you out if you get stuck.
((((HUGS)))))
bizi

Waves,

Thanks for the beautiful picture. I'd like to take my mind somewhere else like that.

M.

Dear Jude,

Coming out of the depression will be faster this time I hope. You and the pdoc have a better idea of the whole picture.

Good luck with that early a.m. appointment.

M.

:o

I'm scared. This pdoc never dealt with me in depression before. I knew me before in depression so well & how the drugs worked, but now I've had these stabilizers in me for 2 yrs. My brain chem goes so :eek: on the best of days--even some teas gotten at Public have laid me out--what if he gives me something that, typically, I glom onto the side effects & go so wack:eek:........

Yeah, depression yakkage.
Shut up, Jude.
Thanx Mari.:hug:

anti depressants can be stimulating so we have to be careful taking them...I have heard that welbutrin is fairly safe to take...prozac made me manic so did paxil and hormone shot birth control....
wishing you some peace jude..

((((HUGS)))
bizi

Thanx bizi. For you too. Peace & a good nights sleep would be so nice. (((:circlelove:)))

JudeLauren,

I've learned I can take mini doses of meds.

For example, last summer 100 mgs of Wellbutrin pulled me out of depression and brain fog and lowered anxiety (Wellbutrin is often prescribed at 300 mg).

Recently, my internist gave me 900 mgs a day of Gabapentin. I'm opening the pills and taking about half a pill for a total of 100-150 mgs. The Gabapentin has helped with brain fog, depression, and anxiety even at that low dose.

M

All good things to know. Gabapentin & topiramate both I can take in low doses only, 100 & 50 respectively/day max & even at that I'm flirting with side effects. Will just have to wait & see. But that's really good to keep in mind. I take sooo many mmeds & pmeds that the lesser the better.

Thanx Mari. I really really appreciate the handholding 'cause I'm feeling like I ought to know how to play this part, only somehow I missed the rehearsal.

Well, better call it a night. (((:circlelove:)))

JudeLauren,

Yes, please! . . . a dress rehearsal so we know what is coming next. :D I got dx'd in 1988 the first time I saw a psychiatrist. I presented depressed. Still she talked about bipolar, lithium, and sent me for thyroid blood work before she could put me on the lithium. That was in 1988.
I'm still changing my mind (refining my outlook if you will) about how I think about this and how I want things to go.

The number of meds a person is on might not matter. Sometimes with mood stabilizers, pdocs put people on two (or even three occasionally) mood stabilzers at low dose in order to get the most benefit with least side effects.

Some mdoc meds cause depression (blood pressure meds and so on). The pdocs usually (but not always) take that into consideration when they create the combo.
(I'm into my parentheses tonight :cool:).

Actually, I think of this as a dance. Sometimes the bipolar leads and we follow. Sometimes we have a hard time keeping up. Sometimes we break dance. I try to follow.

M

Good Luck JudeLauren,

i wish you the best with the meddy-go-round to help with the depression you are in. (((hugs)))

~ waves ~ torn between packing (anxiety) and posting/reading (safety)