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rad351 11-02-2012 12:25 AM

Not recovering found out why
 
I had a first rib resection earlier this year but was not recovering actually was getting worse so my surgeon who did the surgery who I really like sent me for. More tests, angiogram and a doppler altrosound, after the test the radiolist at the hospital surgeon called me to get my but back in as they needed to talk with them, so I did my test showed my subclavein artery is being completely pinched off plus pinching on my thoracic nerve bundle but here is the bad part the surgeon who did my last surgery removed the wrong rib and muscle :confused: like wtf now I have to go back for another rib resection :(

Jomar 11-02-2012 12:35 AM

How on earth did something like that happen?:eek::eek::eek:
What ones did he remove left instead of right, or ?

Do you have to pay for the both surgeries?:eek::eek::eek:

astern 11-02-2012 07:39 AM

HOLY COW!!!!
i'm so sorry this has happened to you!!!

This is why many of us suggest going to a surgeon who has done the rib resection procedure hundreds of times and thus will be prepared for anomalies and just plain extra parts or parts in the wrong location.

My first attempt at rib resection ended up going bad like your procedure, This surgeon was a top notch heart/lung transplant doc. But when he got inside and saw how close everything is in this area, and how MANY structures there are to be avoided... after 4 hours with my arm in a metal clamp... he decided to close me up and do nothing. Left quite a mess in there that had to be corrected by Dr. Annest in Denver.

I have a good suggestion: select yourself a Denver doc or other closer doc from the sticky list at the top of this forum. Tell him what happened, and let new doc deal with old doc.

And you should NOT have to pay 1 dime for this first surgery.

Hang in there rad, we're all rooting for you to get the best care available!
Anne

jkl626 11-02-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rad351 (Post 927980)
I had a first rib resection earlier this year but was not recovering actually was getting worse so my surgeon who did the surgery who I really like sent me for. More tests, angiogram and a doppler altrosound, after the test the radiolist at the hospital surgeon called me to get my but back in as they needed to talk with them, so I did my test showed my subclavein artery is being completely pinched off plus pinching on my thoracic nerve bundle but here is the bad part the surgeon who did my last surgery removed the wrong rib and muscle :confused: like wtf now I have to go back for another rib resection :(

Wow! Thats rough. I hope you can get it solved. can you share who the doc was? If you dont want to post it here you can send me a pm. thanks,
jkl

Jomar 11-02-2012 02:46 PM

In the hospital I've to for mine & others' surgeries (back, carpal tunnel, my knee) the dr comes in and marks the correct location with felt pen on you before surgery, just so you can say "hey it's not the right place!" if the mark is wrong.


Do other hospitals/surgeons do that?:confused:

Nmorozco94 11-02-2012 04:08 PM

Wow a lot of other us think we have it bad, you're going through the procedure twice and lost an extra extra rib in the process:/ don't let your praying knees get lazy during this time!! Please best of luck and take care of yourself. Hope all works out soon :Good-Luck:

-nmorozco94

Horizontal One 11-02-2012 05:55 PM

Oh good heavens...how the heck did the surgeon do that one? Poor you...hope that all goes Ok this time and that they pay you for their mistakes.. Wishing you the best..
Hx

rad351 11-03-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 927985)
How on earth did something like that happen?:eek::eek::eek:
What ones did he remove left instead of right, or ?

Do you have to pay for the both surgeries?:eek::eek::eek:

He removed them from my left and I live in canada so our surgies are paid for by the goverment

parbie 11-03-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rad351 (Post 928256)
He removed them from my left and I live in canada so our surgies are paid for by the goverment

So sorry to hear about what you are going through! was your surgery done by a surgeon with some TOS experience? Where in Canada are you, I am in Toronto recovering but had my surgery in Denver. The only surgeon I know of here is Dr Roche Nagel and he isn't very experienced.

parbie 11-03-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by parbie (Post 928488)
So sorry to hear about what you are going through! was your surgery done by a surgeon with some TOS experience? Where in Canada are you, I am in Toronto recovering but had my surgery in Denver. The only surgeon I know of here is Dr Roche Nagel and he isn't very experienced.

Just saw some of your previous posts and see you are in BC. Good luck with resolving everything I know how tough getting through the system here can be as it is with one surgery, let alone 2.

rad351 11-04-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by parbie (Post 928488)
So sorry to hear about what you are going through! was your surgery done by a surgeon with some TOS experience? Where in Canada are you, I am in Toronto recovering but had my surgery in Denver. The only surgeon I know of here is Dr Roche Nagel and he isn't very experienced.

I live in bc being that this is a work safe claim I am hoping I will not wait to long, I just hope that I will be back to normal again even though I will be missing a few ribs and have reflex sympathetic disorder now because of the first surgery. Was wondering what I can do about the mistake now

Jomar 11-04-2012 10:28 PM

Can you consult with some lawyers, to find out about any possible lawsuit with compensation for stress, RSD & surgery pain & suffering?:(
The RSD is a biggie.. that can be a lifelong & painful condition.

Sounds like some sort of medical malpractice.. surgeons must make sure they are doing the right thing when they operate on someone.

Proving the RSD happening due to the first surgery might be difficult, but if you were generally healthy and didn't have any treatment for it previously & have some high rated drs agreeing that it is RSD.

I don't know how medical lawsuits are handled in Canada..:confused:

rad351 11-05-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 928733)
Can you consult with some lawyers, to find out about any possible lawsuit with compensation for stress, RSD & surgery pain & suffering?:(
The RSD is a biggie.. that can be a lifelong & painful condition.

Sounds like some sort of medical malpractice.. surgeons must make sure they are doing the right thing when they operate on someone.

Proving the RSD happening due to the first surgery might be difficult, but if you were generally healthy and didn't have any treatment for it previously & have some high rated drs agreeing that it is RSD.

I don't know how medical lawsuits are handled in Canada..:confused:

I am not sure being I am a martial artist black belt and a Christian. And he did phone me to apologize. I might take it as what is done well not bring back who I was.

astern 11-05-2012 08:15 AM

religious content - not meant to offend or promote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rad351 (Post 928766)
I am not sure being I am a martial artist black belt and a Christian. And he did phone me to apologize. I might take it as what is done well not bring back who I was.

Hi rad,

being a fellow Christian, I feel like it's required of you to
a) not harbor ill will
b) forgive
c) protect others

asking to be forgiven for some transgression does NOT mean the transgressor can walk away with 0 consequences. There are "consequences". You have been badly damaged and will have to live with the consequences of your Dr.'s mistake. He has made a bad mistake and (even tho you forgive him) he has to accept the consequences. His consequence may be going back to anatomy school, or not being allowed to preform TOS surgeries, or being dropped from Canadian Insurance group(s)... etc.

You owe it to the hundreds of others who will come after you to PROTECT them from the unnecessary injury done to you. You must pursue this. Not necessarily for $$ (although you DO deserve $ to support you for the remainder of your life), but to prevent this from happening to someone else.

I hope this makes Christian sense to you!

Anne

Jomar 11-05-2012 12:48 PM

Have you read our RSD forum here?

If you did get RSD from that wrong surgery it will be a lifetime of pain, probably lifelong medications & pain management , and it can possibly spread to other areas.
A "sorry" alone won't pay for all that care.:(

Did the surgeon even say how it happened?

Maybe they need to implement the pre surgery felt pen marking of the correct area - so everyone involved knows what is to be operated on - so this doesn't happen again.


If it is RSD there are blocks to be tried early on to see if it can be stopped, I think they are called "stellate ganglion blocks" you can use the forum search to find more details and posts about that.
But soon as possible is best for to be able to stop RSD.

pabb 11-05-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rad351 (Post 927980)
I had a first rib resection earlier this year but was not recovering actually was getting worse so my surgeon who did the surgery who I really like sent me for. More tests, angiogram and a doppler altrosound, after the test the radiolist at the hospital surgeon called me to get my but back in as they needed to talk with them, so I did my test showed my subclavein artery is being completely pinched off plus pinching on my thoracic nerve bundle but here is the bad part the surgeon who did my last surgery removed the wrong rib and muscle :confused: like wtf now I have to go back for another rib resection :(

wrong rib, in what sense? 2nd instead of first? or 1rst instead of cervical?

rad351 11-05-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabb (Post 928892)
wrong rib, in what sense? 2nd instead of first? or 1rst instead of cervical?

he removed my second rib

rad351 11-05-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jo*mar (Post 928887)
Have you read our RSD forum here?

If you did get RSD from that wrong surgery it will be a lifetime of pain, probably lifelong medications & pain management , and it can possibly spread to other areas.
A "sorry" alone won't pay for all that care.:(

Did the surgeon even say how it happened?

Maybe they need to implement the pre surgery felt pen marking of the correct area - so everyone involved knows what is to be operated on - so this doesn't happen again.


If it is RSD there are blocks to be tried early on to see if it can be stopped, I think they are called "stellate ganglion blocks" you can use the forum search to find more details and posts about that.
But soon as possible is best for to be able to stop RSD.

i was marked with a pen he has now retired from surgery , but still has a practice ,i have been given blocks all i want is to go back to work and get back to martial arts and playing with my kids

chel1017 11-05-2012 06:18 PM

so sorry to hear. Healing is slow from one surgery let alone twice. With my recent surgery found out last surgeon left a little of the first rib for the second surgeon to remove. But I pray for you to have better luck this go round.

rad351 11-06-2012 03:47 PM

i received a letter from the doctor that says he sorry for removing my second rib instead of my first rib the guy must feel really bad :(
thank you all for the best of wishes and i hope you all will not live a day in pain

rad351 11-17-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizontal One (Post 928178)
Oh good heavens...how the heck did the surgeon do that one? Poor you...hope that all goes Ok this time and that they pay you for their mistakes.. Wishing you the best..
Hx

He nor any doctor will not pay as they are protected by worksafe they can basically play god and get away with it , even though he wrote that it was his mistake. I am so depressed now and can no longer enjoy my life , I will refuse a second surgery now because the only surgeon left that does this in bc is his best friend I rather die then let another doctor touch me

Jomar 11-17-2012 08:15 PM

I'm so sorry this happened to you.
I can't beliveve there is no way to get some sort of compensation for the situation.

Can you contact your political representatives for any kind of help.

Tell them the story of what happened, it can't hurt to try.


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