Doc John - your topic, BT2 and BT1
 

That's great to know that BT2 will remain. But did you ever decide on a new name for this, or will it remain Brain Talk 2 Communities? Just curious because I'm not worried about that. I'm sure if you named it something else it would be a good choice. Thanks.

I was wondering about that myself...

In my wondering ( scary, I know ;) ), I thought about the many others who still might be looking for BT in some form. In that case, should we keep this name for a few more months knowing that we will change it in the near future?

KD

You know you really are pushing John Lester to the wall with this. Wonder what he will think of what has already been done to that which he worked so hard and so long for.

I know I am still peeved at him but enough already.

Thelma,

That's a good point in the discussion.

Thank you!

KD

All great points here!

I also wondered the same thing. However, I think the name should reflect the purpose of the site and be a name people would 'look for'. During my search, I would type in random things hoping to find a good community website.

I do believe the keywords involved will play a huge part along with the actual name of the website (the words used to describe the website). I know I typed all sorts of various things to find forums; neurology forums, neurology support, seizures, epilepsy, blah,blah...

Now that wasn't nice. I just had my post ready to go when something knocked me slap out of the room, actually slap off the site!!

Now Thelma dear, I won't go back where I was but somebody needs too. Now I loved John Lester, I cut my teeth on JL's ;;;;;;;;;;;dawg leash.

I find it hard to speak his name saying he was getting the site back up cause it had been down almost a month?? I was a bit mad at him already, but that just took the cake! I am not just POed now I am friggin angry as you know what!! I've paid my dues, but what does that get us? No, he doesn't owe us anything. Thats good. We are even now.

I was reading here and yonder this morning. It noted that John's sites's, all of them were just purring along, all except BrainTalk. I didn't know this person or group of persons or whatever. It doesn't matter to me Dr.J. We could name him Jon Jr. I have a son named Jonathan, most times I call him Jon. that way we wouldn't be accussed of "steeling anything"" I give you my permission to use my Jon's name:p

The server has been down more than up and when it is up its so slow you could run to the gro, store and back before your post posted!

Personally it could have the BT2 and then the new name in my
opinion.

Donna

The big question would be if JL has a trademark or service mark registered for the term "Brain Talk" or not.

joe

I apologize Thelma. I didn't mean any harm. I was just curious. And I like it here.

I like your idea of waiting kimmydawn.

Yes, I will gladly change the name when/if BT1 returns. I don't see that as a given at this point, though.

John

BT1 has been down
 

for over 2 months. It crashed in July. That was only 14 months after he rebuilt the site with new and improved equipment and software to prevent a bad crash again. That was when a major donation push went on to be able to procure the equipment and software. For months prior to the crash, the site was so slow.

BT1 was a wealth of info and had a lot of members. These people were left out of support and with no info, had no place to turn. It seems interesting that emails went out this week to say BT1 was coming back. If that info is in the database, how did the emails get sent?

There's only one person who can answer that question and he's not here, sorry.

John

I'm a JL loyalist and will be back at his forum in a heart beat when it is up. He ran it on a shoe string and a prayer during his volunteer time long enough to get my family through one of the darkest times of our lives. I refuse to jump on some sort of "JL is evil" band wagon.

Laurie

:( I sure hope this thread isnt going to deteriorate into a battle zone again!

My personal and sincere request to everyone, whether you like JL and OBT or not, is to focus on what this place is meant to be, a place to get and offer support and information. It was not set up to be negative to JL and OBT, but to offer a place for us to be able to continue helping and being helped.

If and when OBT comes back up, some will go back and say goodbye here, others will only want to be here, and some will visit between the two. But nomatter the preferences, we all are part of a greater community that should surely be able to transcend all that.

I agree with Chemar. Think about it, why did you really come or come back in the first place?

BTW: John Lester has been 'near us' for years. When my son was in grade 2 I started visiting. Today he is in year 3 of college. Just think of all that time JL's put in (but yes, I know, who said he has to)

When BrainTalk became a non-profit organization, I'm pretty sure that
John had to register the name, BrainTalk, somewhere. In which case,
this forum would have to change its name once BrainTalk returns.

I sure hope this thread isnt going to deteriorate into a battle zone again!


If you anticipate the negative you will end up creating it

I guess a lot of people would feel so much better if this site had come on maybe even as to 2 weeks before Braintalk went down but it didn't.

That is why some are leary about the protestations of caring and interest in them and thier welfare.

It is going to take a long time to gain respect and to have them believe you all.

Will it be? I don't really know.

It is a work in progress that has many pitfalls to overcome,

Particularly when it follows so close to the original product and has all of the same members.

I understand the few who were banned being here as they needed a place to go but my confidence in others to stay is wanilng.

Anyway good luck to you all as I am off to fight my battle once more. I know ilt is a useless trip but the desire to live out stretches my desire to die.

I will be able to read the site but not be able to post so before the hurrahs start let me say this.

Your all good people and don't let your own personal wants and dislikes as well as political and religious philosophies overtake the good of all who come here.

Bye for now and hopefully see you all back here in about 2 to 3 weeks.

Thelma

Thelma..........I hope your battle proves victorious and I will look forward to your return. (yes, really!:o )
You are a unique voice and your honesty in expressing yourself is refreshing in a world of phoney gobbledigook.

Hamba gashle
(African for "may you go and return in peace" )
Cheri

dearest thelma
 

stretch, dear lady, stretch.

i am holding you in my heart.

DocJohn--do you know something we dont? :) Really, OBT has helped many. It has also changed a lot over the years but one thing was for certain--it crashed and went off line on a regular basis.

Forums are made up of people and this one or any other will be what "we" make it for the most part.
JL has not vanished--he can be seen on-line at his other sites. Why he doesnt communicate is anyones guess--he never was very good at keeping us updated when the thing went down.

For myself --the frequent crashes caused me to back off and enter lurkdom as I found it was making me far to irritated for my own good.
BUT--I still felt--"ah BT will be there to help when i really need it" and last week was one of those times.

I went searching and found it still wasnt back but I found this one and was very happy I did cause the people who are most likely to help me for my current crisis are here!

So--I have nothing agasint JL but understand those that are upset. I am not so sure OBT is coming back at all. I disagree that JL doesnt owe the people something.
I think he owes common courtesy and respect by way of a 3 sentence notification regarding whats up or not.

As alwats this is nothing more than my opinion which isnt worth a hill of beans anyway lol :)

I heard back from one of the BT board members last week and JL told him it would be back online last weekend, but that didn't happen. He mentioned that JL had been very busy at Linden, and has been unable to fix the BT software installation. I don't think JL will give up trying, however, and if it can be done, I'm fairly confident he will find a way to do it.

John

I'll miss you Thelma......wishing you the best.

Paula

Quick question...When I googled to find this place, I also found the following link:

http://www.irsa.org/

They list "Brain Talk" as a registered trademark or whatever the little R in the circle means. Is that a problem with the current name here?

Laurie

Thelma!!!!!!!!!!!! lol :)
 

READERS -- see new post, subject 'thelma' if you would like to wish thelma good luck regarding her paragraph below ....

THELMA -- see new post above. i don't know you and have only read a few of your posts. but i just wanted to say that i greatly admire you and have become a fan of yours!

i really like your 'style' because of your positions on different topics and the way you express yourself. i can read between the lines and see that you are a good, kind, smart, compassionate lady, who is also very opinionated and isn't afraid to voice her opinion! :)

in fact, i hope i can be just like you when i grow up!!! lol (actually, i am over 50 so i guess :rolleyes: i am already supposed to be grown up, huh? lol hmmmm ... i'll bet my husband wouldn't agree that i am already grown up!!! lol)

anyway, i want to wish you luck on whatever it is you are getting ready to go through that you briefly mentioned in a post on 9/30/06. whatever it is you were referring to (see below), it sounds very serious and maybe even life threatening???).

i hope to get to know you better when you return in 2-3 weeks (and you WILL return, trust me!!!). meantime, while you are gone i'll do lots of stretches (lol) for you!!! :)

hugs and kisses and good wishes for you!! here's a few roses too (if i can figure out how to load them here! if not, just make believe you see them!!! lol)

GET WELL AND COME BACK SOON!!!

p.s. if you can read here while you are gone, why can't you post, at least briefly, just to say how you are? just go to yahoo.com and open an account and come back here as 'thelma2' maybe? just a thought ...
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KittyKat,

Maybe you should copy your post to a completely new thread so Thelma can see it easily; cause you're kinda stuck in the middle of this thread, ya know?

And she'd be delighted to click on and first thing she sees is a "get well" thread...may not be too easy for her to navigate after treatment...just a thought :)
all the best

BT is back - as I knew it would be.

Goodbye!

-Kathleen