Uh-oh! My dad is in the ER!
 

My dad called a bit ago from his work (he works in a hospital, he's a nurse anesthetist)

Seems that he was not looking good to his co-workers, and they sent him to the ER. Turns out he's throwing PVC's (irregular heart rythyms) and he was diaphoretic (sweating).

He called back a little bit ago, looking for his doctor's phone number, and I asked what was going on, and he told me apparently his heart is enlarged.

I looked some of this stuff up on Google. (I know, bad to diagnose by Google) but I'm guessing he's got some sort of congestive heart failure. PVC's by themselves arent usually dangerous, but sometimes they're a sign of underlying heart problems.

My dad has been getting really tired and breathless from walking from the surgery area of the hospital down to his car in the evenings. (it's a looong walk) but he hasnt been that concerned about it. I am now. Breathlessness is a sign of congestive heart failure. He's had a really bad cough lately too.

He got a cold just before I did, and like mine, it turned into bronchitis. His cough has lasted a lot longer than mine tho.

This is a bit familar of a situation too. About 15yrs ago, my uncle got sick with a cold, which turned into bronchitis. His co-workers and my aunt tricked my uncle into seeing a doctor (told him they were going shopping, but ended up taking him to the hospital where his co-workers escorted him into the ER to see the doctor)

My uncle had the same symptoms as my dad, and it turned out he had a viral infection that damaged 50% (or more) of his heart muscle. He was on the transplant list, waiting for a heart, when his viral infection reactivated and went for his pancreas. He died of pancreatitis while waiting for the transplant.

I'm all freaked out. My dad said not to come up to the ER, my boyfriend is telling me to ignore my dad and take my mom up there. I'm not sure what to do. I dont know if they're going to keep my dad in the hospital or not. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown from this.


Sorry if this post was long winded, but, I felt the need to post about it.

First, breathe, it is not in your power to fix or change the situation. Second, think.

It's okay to write it here, Erin, this is what we do. If I were in your situation, I'd call my mom and see what she thinks is best. I suspect she'd appreciate you taking her there because I'm sure they won't let your dad drive home and at the very least, you could help her pick up his car after you see him and know more.

Just what'd I'd do, sweetie, it's really up to you. Keep us posted, okay?

:hug:

he is in good hands erin.

deep breath. relax.

amn gave you good advice.

Oh, Erin, how scary. Curious is right, he is in good hands. Try to stay calm and let us know how it goes.

Sending Prayers and Hugs.

Erin take AMN advice. I was in a similiar situation once.

I know it is easier to say keep calm then to do it, but that is what you have to do.




Keep us advised on your father's condition.





Joyce :hug:

Hi Erin~~ Ditto to what the others' said. Your Dad sounds like how my Mom was; never wanted to worry anyone or put anyone out. I think you should check it out and go there. Otherwise, your'e going to sit and stew.

I am soooo speaking from experience. take care and let us know how your Dad is.

Ok, my dad just got home. (yay!)

He took the rest of the week off from work...the ER doctor gave him an asthma inhaler (this possibly could be somehow related to his asthma) and he got an immediate appointment with his regular doctor. That's where he was when I called him because mom wanted to go up to the ER. So, I took mom out to lunch instead.

His doctor (who was actually his doctor's partner) changed his high blood pressure pills, gave him Lasix (a diuretic?) and scheduled him for an echocardiogram.

My dad decided that he's going to partially retire, if he's allowed to keep working. He wants to go down to half a week of working. I guess being a nurse anesthetist is a stressful job, and he's starting to feel the effect of all the age-ism that the younger employees up there keep throwing at him. (he's worked in that hospital 40+ years. Not all of them as an anesthetist...he started there when he was 15)

I guess we wont know how totally serious today was until he gets the echocardiogram tomorrow. But, I'm happy they let him out on his own. He was told not to do any exercising, was told to not even climb the stairs at work. (he's got to climb 2 flights to get out of the parking garage...not sure how he'd get past that one)

At least he has the rest of the week off...he wanted time off at Xmas and they wouldnt let him have it, even tho he was the first one to request it. They gave everyone else the day off but him, and then whined when he called in sick the day after Xmas with bronchitis. (he told them he was sick several days before that)

I guess I'll go pick up his Rx's and get him some takeout for dinner (my mom and I cant cook)

Oh Dear Erin,
I'm so glad that your Dad is home and that they've given him the rest of the week off. Whilst I was reading the beginning of this message, I was thinking that perhaps it could be something with his lungs that backed up into his heart. Occasionally, pulmonary problems can cause cardaic enlargement. I'm glad he's with you and your Mum and is getting good care.

Please don't worry about coming here and venting. We've all had our share of problems over the years, and have come here to share. I'm glad you did.:hug:

You are all in my thoughts and prayers,
Chris

Be thinking of you and your family!

My dad was thinking the same thing about the pulmonary stuff causing the cardiac stuff. He was reminded when he got to his regular doctor's office that he's got asthma. He hasnt had to use an inhaler for over two years, and was told by the doctor that he didnt need to use the Advair discus if he didnt want to at the same time. My dad only seems to get problems with the asthma when he gets a cold or bronchitis, and he hasnt had that for several years now. Just the bronchitis he picked up a few weeks ago.

I'm wondering if the bronchitis aggravated his asthma and caused whatever was going on.

After talking to my dad tonight, I found out that he didnt even think he was having a problem at the time. Three of the nurses up there were complaining about his cough that he had...they didnt want his cold, and one of them said something to the doctor, and the doctor got them all worked up that my dad could be having congestive heart failure or something.

So they pretty much jumped him and made him go to the ER.

It's nice that they had some concern for his health, but the doctor in the ER said that he's not in congestive heart failure, and that he didnt even have any fluid in his lungs. The blood tests they gave him didnt show any signs of a heart attack.

The ER doc gave him a Rx for an inhaler and sent him to his regular doctor. The regular doctor is giving him a new high blood pressure drug because he did have some edema on his ankles, and he's going for the echocardiogram tomorrow afternoon. I get to drive him, so I'm getting a crochet project together to fiddle with while they're torturing my dad. My aunt, a nurse practitoner that works in the heart transplant team at another hospital here said that echo's are painful. She said they press down pretty hard with the ultrasound wand. My dad didnt need to know that, but my aunt always likes to give too much information about stuff.

I'm betting my dad's asthma is getting worse because he's not been able to exercise regularly (my mom is high maintainence and kind of a control freak and wont let him go because "he'll get sweaty".) As soon as he's cleared to exercise, I'm going with him. (I need the exercise too...I'll probably just walk around the track) and if my mom whines about it, we'll leave her home. (she has to option to come too if she wants)

I'm pretty sure they're going to make him go back to see the pulmologist that he saw 2yrs ago when he had a bit of pneumonia.

My aunt really thought it sounded more like a pulmonary problem (she's a fairly good diagnostician for stuff.) She thinks it's probably got something to do with his high blood pressure. My dad's been on meds for that since he was about 15.

So, hopefully this wont be a cardiac problem. It could be, but I'm going to guess that it's got something to do with the asthma.

Hi Erin

Sorry to be late in on this but it sounds like your dad is in good hands and has great medical care. I hope it all turns out ok and you need to breathe!!! Relax and know that he is being taken care of! Hugs to you.

It sounds like the same stuff my mom has. At least your dad is taking care of himself.

Hi Erin,

I'm sorry about your Dad's health problems, it sounds scary but you've had some great advice from AMN and others here. I hope it turns out to be something minor and manageable, I'll keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

How did your Pop's ECHO go today, Erin, and how is he doing? I hope it wasn't painful. It shouldn't be, done in the proper hands. It sounds as if you have a good handle on the situation and a good plan worked out for the future. I still have all of you in my thoughts and prayers, and am hoping that it turns out to be something like his reactive airway disease (asthma).

Take good care of yourself,
Chris

Keeping your Dad in my prayers, Erin. Sounds like he's got a pretty special daughter..

I dont think the echo was painful, my dad didnt say anything about that.

But, apparently, it's not going to be good news.

We went thru this about 15yrs ago with my uncle (dad's little brother). In very similar circumstances. My uncle had a bad cough, it wasnt getting any better. My aunt and his coworkers tricked him into going to the hospital to get checked out (my aunt was a cardiac care nurse at the time) and he only had 15% of his heart capacity (I'd been thinking he had 50%, found out today it was 15%)

So, my dad went in to get his echo. The people doing the echo had concerned looks on their faces. They actually called the doctor down to evaluate if they should even let him go home. Apparently my dad has only 20% of his heart capacity! Better than my uncle's 15%, but still not a good sign.

15 years ago, when my uncle got diagnosed with whatever this is called, my aunt told me that my uncle only had a 5year survival rate. I'm really hoping that they've done some good advances in past 15yrs for whatever is causing my dad's problem, because my uncle died within a year and a half to 2yrs after he was diagnosed.

My dad hasnt gotten an official diagnosis for whatever this is (which is why I'm calling it "whatever")

My dad is hoping that they'll let him continue working if he goes down to part time.

This is going to suck, I know my uncle's medical bills were astronomical, I dont know how my dad will be able to pay for my mom's medical stuff, his medical stuff and my medical stuff together, and pay off the house and all the assorted junk that we've bought and are still paying for.

This is just what we did not need. Especially since my dad has always been scared that he'd die at the same age as his dad and brother did. (they both died at 54) My dad has at least gotten past that age (he's 68 now) But, I dont think he wants to die the same way his brother did.

Tomorrow is my one year anniversary of being diagnosed with MS. I guess it's only fitting that any other bad medical stuff would happen this week too. Now I can hate the entire week and not just tomorrow's date.

Oh Erin sweetheart!!! ((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))) Are you talking about his ejection fraction rate? If so, yes..........things have changed a lot in the past few years, and there are many new drugs and surgical procedures that are now available that can help these kinds of problems. Does your Pop have an appointment to see a Cardiac Surgeon to go over the results of his ECHO? I don't mean to colour your world all rosy, but wait until you've spoken with the Dr.'s about what can be done. In the meantime, don't worry yourself silly, or your apt to end up having some problems with your ownself.

Go onto WebMD and look up Ejection Fraction Rates. I think you'll find that there is a lot of information on there that isn't as bad as you believe it to be. If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, but it sounds like you have plenty of medical and nursing personnel in your family.

I'm sorry tomorrow is your anniversary of the day you were diagnosed. Many of us have been diagnosed for years, and although it's not what we have wanted from our lives, we're still here to talk about it, laugh about it, and yes even scream about it. Get a good night's rest, and take care of YOU!!! I shall keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.:hug:

All the best,
Chris

Good thing my aunt is a cardiac nurse
 

My aunt just called my dad and warned him (didnt scare him) about what's probably going to happen.

She first, told my dad that he's a lot better off than my uncle was with his heart problem. First off, my dad thought my uncle's Ejection Fraction Rate was 15%, it wasnt. It was anywhere from 6% to 8%! (and he was still working when it was that low!)

So, my dad's much better off than my uncle was...and my aunt said they've done a lot of research and have had some advances in treating this stuff since 1995. She think's if they get it managed correctly that he should be ok for a good bit.

She told my dad that the cardiologist is probably going to send him to one of the local heart failure clinics in town (every hospital here has one) and that they'll check him out regularly and adjust medications when it's needed and that there's a lot of good treatments for this. (hey, at least he doesnt have to worry about the possibility of suddenly going blind from ON, or losing the ability to walk or something because a couple of neurons blew a gasket...)

When my uncle got sick, he'd lost so much of his heart that they'd put him on the transplant list. My aunt said she thought that if he got on whatever treatment they do for this, he should do pretty good. He's in a lot better physical shape than my uncle ever was.

Erin
I'm just getting here. It sounds like your Dad is in good hands. Please continue to take care of yourself too. I want you to know you and your family are in my thoughts.

:hug:

My dad took me to Best Buy this afternoon to buy me a late Xmas present (I cancelled a mail order for a different present and decided to use the money on something else...since the former present was so backordered that I was getting tired of waiting) My dad got me a new tv, and is getting it delivered so that neither of us will injure ourselves trying to get it set up.

I'm not letting my dad do anything more strenuous than walking around a Best Buy or signing a credit card slip.