Coenzymated B - 12
 

I was taking a look at what Amazon had available for methylcobalamine. That's where I ordered my first bottle from. I came across this:

http://www.amazon.com/Source-Natural...783849&sr=1-13

It says it's Dibencozide. Is this form any better than methylcobalamine? Or no difference? Any information welcome. I've never seen this form before.

I've never seen it, either.
Interesting- no strength listed, just 'Athletic Series'
120 tabs $38.76
Dunno what the mcg's are.
iherb has the 60 size bottle
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails....&pid=2454&at=0
and it says..."from 10 mg dibencozide 8.6 mg " (yes mg.) - %DV-143,000%, for $18.86
I use Jarrow 1000,mcg, methylcobalamin - sub lingual.
Much less expensive.
Maybe Mrs D will have an answer

Hi, I googled Dibencozide, and here's what showed up. Take a look:

By the way, personally, and I've tried other brands, I find Jarrows to be the best (for me).

http://www.mindreference.com/Dibenco...CID=C15771x322

For that maker I simply wouldn't buy it. I *have* to know how much I'm taking of every single thing I put into my body.

I'm just curious if this form would be even more effective than the methylcobalamin form.

ETA: Here's what I ordered for the first time on mehylcobalamin: Price is good and it's a dose I need and feel comfortable with.

http://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=9842

there was a guy on the old "other" web site who used to experiment with taking different forms and doses of b12 and would post his results with himself and his family. Dibencozide (adenosylcobalamin) was one of those. He was from Utah i think but i dont remember his name. I havent seen him around in a long time. Its a shame but im pretty sure that you wont be able to search for this because all of their archives are on ice.

You are talking about FRED I believe. I haven't seen him for years on the net, at least where I look around. While I want to remain tactful, the mentioned poster was going very RADICAL with B12. I was disappointed in him, because Rose for years was encouraging us and he took her advice and never once gave her credit or thanked her. I read and posted on many forums at OBT and was very familiar with Fred.
At the end there before he left he was advocating over 40mg a day... which IMO was rather drastic and only supported on some studies for MS from Japan. I would think medical supervision should be had at that dose range.

Here is an article that explains the small differences between methylcobalamin and dibencozide (which has many other names including adenosylcobalamin)

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/b12.htm
The athletic series refers to mega body building/training which consume huge amounts of vitamins/nutrients. Also there is a B12 thing going for weight loss. Training or body building needs really efficient red blood cell formation.
It is just a classification thing.
Long ago before I found methylB12 I used Country Life's dibencozide sublingual. They were hard as rocks, and convinced me that not much was getting thru that way. So I chewed them up and swallowed them.

There is not much difference that I can see, between the active forms, in that they are both better than cyano.
For our purposes Methyl is fine, and preferred I think.

And here is a sleep quote (this was my most favored response to MethylB12)

Mrs. D.

Fred took 40 mgs??? Isn't that 40,000 mcgs ????

40,000??????

I take 5000 and that's above and beyond what other people take.

But 40,000????

That must be if a person is a body builder or something like that, right??

I still can't get past the amount of 40,000!!!! jeez

Bob got talked into that, I just could's stand the taste,it was very sweet.
Mel told me what she had done...Well I would never take it again.
He owns a store with Dr. Amy he said to be consistent,besides there
was something in it Jarrett that burned my tongue ,lips ect. Anything
thats taste sweet and burns you mouth,well it has to go...Hugs Sue

poor mans viagara

i hope he is ok

he also used a sensory deprivation tank or as it is called now a flotation tank or isolation tank.

Oh, I don't think it is at all like Viagra...please don't assume that.
To work like Viagra a substance has to dilate (or increase nitric oxide), and
if anything.. huge use of B12 would make blood thicker, and impair that function IMO. But for cold sports like the Winter Olympics, those cross country, or
endurance events, need huge oxygen carrying capablity in the blood. That is why ProCrit was used in doping and finally banned. What can happen to those who try it, is that the blood can become thicker, and sticky and lead to blood clots or stroke. Since most of them are young, it is less likely. But still a risk.
Many of those athletes train at high altitudes too, to increase red blood cell concentration....there are lots of tricks...but I don't think many of them affect the below the belt functions.

Now if anyone is WORRIED about blood thickening.... older adults can be typically low in blood cell volume. As we age we develop
mild anemias. My doctor was ASTOUNDED by my last blood work. She expected this since I am over 60 now. I didn't even get
anemic when I was pregnant and had SURGERY and huge blood losses. So I am a special case I guess.

When we talk about blood doping or extreme endurance that does not include US here (I hope).

i was kidding ,i was relaying what i seem to remember what he had said at the time about that subject. its a long time ago.
For some people wellbutrin is the poor mans viagara.

i take 1000mcg per day b12, never have taken more than 5,000. i tried dibencozide but i never noticed a difference so i kept taking the methylcobalamin.

I think you are recalling his "unique" use for the Rebuilder?
That would be closer to the "Viagra" use. <hint hint>
He mentioned the wife too, vaguely. LOL