Neuragen
 

There was an ad in my local newspaper today. It spouts that Neuragen will take away your neuropathic pain, your burning, your stabbing. There was a photo of a person's foot and it looked like needles were stabbing the foot.

So I cut out the ad, and we took a walk to our local druggist. He had never heard of it. Then we took a walk to CVS.

The pharmacist took a look at the ad and said: "oh, yes these are tablets".

Sigh!!!!

I said: "Read the ad, these are NOT tablets". It says to apply topically. She didn't know what it was, never heard of it, and said "But they mention CVS in the ad, so we must have it".

So I said "okay, where is it??" She takes us to the Vitamin department.

I said: "now why on earth would a nerve pain creme be in the vitamin department?" She said "Because that would be where we put it".

IT WASN'T!!

So then I said: "I bet I know where CVS put it". And she said "Really?? where?" and I said "With all the diabetic stuff". And she goes "oh, do you really think so". SIGH!!!

So off we go down the diabetic aisle, with all the meters, lancets, diabetic vitamins, alcohol swabs, etc. and we couldn't find it.

Then she goes "AHA!!! HERE IT IS!!!

And there..down on the bottom of the shelf, were two (2) bottles of this stuff, with a sign that said 'NEW". (IF IT'S SO NEW, WHY IS IT HIDDEN ON THE BOTTOM SHELF, AND THERE ARE ONLY TWO??).

Guess how much a little bottle is??? $29.99. Alan almost fainted.

I mean, if the stuff worked, well I gather it's worth ANYTHING.

Then I saw the word HOMEOPATHIC and I remembered what Mrs. Doubtfire said about Homeopathic stuff, that they dilute it ALOT!!

So we didn't buy it.

Just wanted to know if any of you tried this.

Thanks much

Melody

Web it up yourself!
 

$30. bucks before S&H for a .1something ounce/gram 'bottle'? TEENY! Save your money.. Read the ingredients... Nothing miraculous there either.
Here is what All there is on their supposed clinical trials:
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=neurogen
I am not vibrating with anticipation. It'd be widespread word out already if it really worked. At least they are trying?

I'd save the money for prescriptions or FOOD these days! - j

I clicked on the link but it doesn't mention using it topically for neuropathic pain.

It just says that they are recruiting for a clinical trial for Parkinson, Restless leg syndrome, and Insomnia.

We're not buying it.

If it were THAT good, it would be on 20/20.

P.S. Are we talking about the same product? On the link you gave it said Neurogen. In the ad I have in front of me it is spelled Neuragen. It gives the link www.neuragen.com

Googled it
 

Melody,
I googled it and the first hit that came up said it had been around since 1996. If this stuff worked it would be advertised in every magazine and doctor's office. And the company would have been bought out and marketed as a drug. I'm not buying it.

Billye

I webbed it up
 

ON NIH just as YOU spelled it. Go figger?

Predators exist everywhere. IF you look up their web site? The list of ingredients isn't all that impressive. Even tho they call it 'proprietary'.
If you buy that, I know of a few horse linaments that have similar ingredients that are much cheaper and far more readily available! At least I know the linaments have been used on sensitive skinned animals for decades? You can buy a quart/plus for the price of this stuff. I've tried the linaments too, and they don't work for PN tho...at least not the kind I have? - j

Wise word... bury it?

just geranium oil...
 

we discuss geranium oil here:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...t=geranium+oil

It is available as geranium oil at iherb.com by NOW for about
$10.00 for 30ml.

Listed also on the label is St.John's wort in 3X dilution.
from http://www.explorepub.com/articles/shelton_11_6.html

So why on earth would Geranium Oil work on PN pain? My goodness. Thirty Bucks for a teeny little bottle. I asked the pharmacist (because you can return EVERYTHING to CVS), I asked her "if we are not satisifed with this product, can we return it?" and she shook her head and said: "no, if you open it, you keep it".

I looked at her and said "we don't want it, you keep it".

She laughed.

There is
 

There is a patent in place for geranium oil.

It supposedly works somewhat...but I wonder why we don't hear more about it.

We sure hear about Lyrica!

Let's see if I have this straight. I can go into a florist, (or wherever one goes to buy Geranium Oil), and I buy some, and Alan massages it on his toes, and his PN will go away??

Is this possible?? Because, although Alan's PN is nowhere near the level it was years ago, he still has his moments. He would try this in a heartbeat if it has a chance of working. (The geranium oil i mean, NOT THE $30 BOTTLE OF THE STUFF).

Mel...
 

Did you read the thread? Marlene explains how to use the essential oil safely. And only one type of geranium is useful.

You buy these in healthfood stores, or online at places like
iherb. And no, it does not cost $30.

You only use a couple of drops at a time.

The Neuragen claims St.John's Wort as the active ingredient.
If you click the label on the site, it gives the ingredients.
Geranium oil is part of the carrier essential oil.

I don't know much about St.John'sWort and PN.

A pharmacist gave me a sample small bottle. It was too small to know if it could work. I did not see any improvement.

Hi Mrs. D.

Yes, I read all the threads by Marlene.

Interesting information.

melody

Bringing this back up after seeing an ad in the recent AARP magazine.
Just wondering if anyone else had tried it?

I once tried Naturopathy and I believe that I was ripped off big time,I originally had gone to see this lady for massage's,just for a bit of relief.Then after the 3rd or 4th time she says she's too busy to fit me in,but she would show Brian (DH) how to do it,but I would have to buy all these oils.One of them was Geranium Oil 10ml $50.00 another was Helichrysum Oil 5ml $35.00,not just oils but a bottle of Ning Xia Red (in English Juice) fruit drink concentrate 1 ltre $80.00 still have it (too expensive to open) In the end did it work,NO it was just another $300.00 down the drain...

Soothing cream
 

Hi - I've wanted to let people know about this product for a long time - just never got around to it. I've spent a lot of $ on junk - but this actually helps. At least it helps me. It is a cream made from Rosemary, lavender, mint, emu oil, willow bark, and moisturizing oils. It is from: www.buckscornerstore.com. There is a section under neuropathy treatments (I believe). The woman that makes it actually suffers from neuropathy. I use a little on my feet at night and it really has a soothing effect. It's not cheap but worth every ounce to me. I get a 2 oz. jar for $8.00. I usually order 3 at a time because the shipping is less expensive. I use to buy it on ebay but then got smart and went directly to their website and I save a little in shipping. I have been using this consistently for about 2 years now. I use it before bed. It really does help with the "barking" feet at night.

If you try it let me know what you think.

Cheryl

I bought some
 

I saw the same ad ran out and bought it, here is my take:
Geranium oil {perfume} is very very strong I only use it when I am alone.
It's aroma therapy nothing more.
It's a distraction to your conscious mind sometimes that's not a bad thing particuly when your alone.

Thanks for this! And, I don't care why it works, only that it works!!! I have already invested a small fortune in pain relief, so what's a few more bucks??? I think I'll try a bottle...

It works
 

I have no axe to grind and I would not attempt to persuade anyone to buy the expensive Neuragen. I bought it in desparation for neuropathy - tremendous foot pain which would not respond to any prescribed medical treatment. All I can say is, it really works.

I have tried this product (Neuragen PN) and have found it relieve my tingling toes and shooting pain. I have recommended it to my brother in New England who suffers from Diabetes neuropathy in his feet also.

FredMack...

Reply to discussions on Neuragen PN
 

Well folks, I can tell you that Neuragen has and does work for me! I have been using the oil for about 18 months. It is expensive but for some it can do wonders. I think that its effectiveness for any individual depends on your daily metabilism. In other words it works for me somedays better than others but it always works.
I developed PN after a bout with a serious bacterial intestinal disorder which landed me in the hospital for 20 days and I went into Systemic Shock., which means my body organs were shutting down. Out of that in evolved into nerve damage in the lower torso. Quite painful at times and always with me to some degree when standing or attempting to from a sitting position.

Anyway, I saw the advertisement and I called Neuragen. (This was before CVS and Right Aid carried the product) I ordered the VERY small bottle and since it is a concentrate used very little on my fingertip and lightly rubbed in to the arae of pain. Within minutes I was no longer in pain ! In order to make the stuff last and in order to spread the oil over the entire lower torso, I mixed the oil with Johnson's Baby Cream. Johnson's Baby Bedtime lotion worked best for me. As I said earlier it works better some days than others but always works to some level. I would not do without it ! On days when the pain is extremely bad I may end up using this mixture that I spoke of about 4 -5 times a day. Additionally, I had received a promo email from CVS which had a place to correspond. I did so and told them of my experiences with the stuff and recommended that they carry it. They wrote b ack after about 10 days, thanked me and told me that they looked into it and decided not to carry the product. I then responded back to them that they would be doing a great service to their Diabetic and other nerve pain sufferers.
They agin wrote back that they had agin looked at the product and had decided to carry it ! I am sure that I was not the only person who told them of the product and I guess Neuragen's Sales team probably had something to do with it. If you mix the stuff like I did it can last a considerable time and in fact Neuragen recommends this method if the pained area is large. Great stuff and I can't say enough about it.

Have you ever tried putting the Johnson's lotion on WITHOUT adding the Neurogen?

The reason I ask is that I have found that ANYTHING applied to the skin blocks the nerve receptors to the AIR, and changes the pain sensations.

Some additions make this more pronounced...like Menthol which stimulates cooling nerves so the heat/burning ones are overridden.

I went back to CVS to see if they still carried it. They still have the one little bottle (from last year because I checked it). It's still on the bottom shelf.

No one has purchased it. They don't promote it or anything.

I wonder why??

Melody

Retail pharmacies don't "promote"...
They offer sales, and some loss leaders to get you into the
store. Advertising costs tons of $$...

When new products like Neurogen come out, they sell at a lower wholesale price to some large chains, because in their ADs for it, in magazines and on the net (or TV if they get that far)...there will be the trailer..."available at CVS or whatever"
CVS does NOT pay for that advertising, they made a deal to carry the product with that clause.

When you see an ad in a flyer for Walgreen's or CVS...there are agreements behind the scenes. NatureMade for example, in the Buy one get one....that is one of them. NatureMade is giving those products at a discount to the pharmacy in that event.

Well, I admit, on one particularly painful day, I bought a bottle at the drug store. I was especially having problems with the lower part of my palm, just below the thumb, so that night I put some on. It did cool it down somewhat, but later the pain was back in force. I am also a bit sensitive to the smell. I think this is probably like most remedies and even medications. It works for some, but not everyone.

I tried it
 

Not much relief....but I smell like a plant. My dog kept following me around the house....I thought my dog was going to urinate on my leg...but that is another story.

Cymbalta has started to kick in, and I am getting better each day on it...it also has had a definite impact on mood...it is not perfect, but at least I am not thinking about it constantly. The amygdala plays a big part in all this I imagine, hence the role of antidepressants.

Be well to everyone,

Mark

cymbalta
 

Hi, yes I went to Univ of Chicago, and the doc started me on Cymbalta, It started to kick in also, I feel so much better, probably more of a mood thing, but many symptoms started to fade, I think many, not all of my symptoms were related to stress. I also started to think about my other life more, not just pn, I was obsessing over it. Feel soo much better, hope you do to!

Neuragen Works
 

Just to reply to you - your pharmacist will not know about the product - you need to talk to the store manager. It is a NEW product and that is why there are only two of them roughly on each shelf - we are getting it out there slow but steady. It is in a liquid form and the reason it costs so much is because it is %100 concentrated - This is not diluted as you said in your reply. I know hunders of people this works for and it is amazing how cheap it is in accordance to such pills as Lyrica and other nerve pain treatments. :D

It looks to me that 2 of the posters on this thread are connected to Neurogen.

Although every med has side effects. I can only speak for the one that made me quit Cymbalta, and that was urinary retention. I just flat out couldn't urinate! It is one of the side-effects of this anti-depressant.

Neuragen works
 

I thought I'd relate my mom's experience. My mom had very severe nerve pain on the side of her face (near her jaw). She rubbed in a couple of drops Neuragen and, within minutes, the pain was gone. She swears by it now. She also has a friend who is using it for diabetic nerve pain in her feet and she has been able to completely relieve her pain by applying Neuragen.

Some of the posters here are not spelling the name correctly, the product is spelled Neuragen not Neurogen. They have clinical data from several trials available for download on their website (*edit*). My mom also found Neuragen through WebMD.

The Neuragen website shows it being available at all major pharmacies and my mom bought it at her pharmacy with no problem.

Just thought I'd share her good results.

Silas.

I have been studying, and mixing my own "potions" with essential oils just since march, but I have learned so much, my rosacea is mostly all cleared up, I refuse to pay big bucks to buy anti-aging creams, when I can make my own.I went to the NEURAGEN site,and saw what they put into it, and am going to try to re-create it myself, as soon as the ingredient I am missing gets here.After ALOT of research, I have made a potion for the pain in my feet, and it actually does work!! And doing it myself is so much cheaper than buying creams from the Pharmacy. But it does involve weeks and weeks of research. I will keep you all posted!

FDA issues warning on Lyrica
 

FDA warning on Lyrica:

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neuragen
 

YES it does work for nerve pain, and it works FAST! yes its expensive, but i use it on a qtip and only when my pain is so intense i cant sleep or be human without it.
unlike all the other stuff out there that is supposed to work, and you pay more than is really smart, this stuff does do what they say it does. i have not found anything else that will really put the pain "to sleep" like neuragen does. it works for a couple of hours, but those hours a are true blessing! it doesnt take much at all, so apply just a bit, like i said i use a qtip and just a drop and then use it to apply where the pain is really horrid. you will find ads for this product in all the diabetic magazines, for diabetic neuropathy, that is how i first found out about it. it can be hard to find at the drug store, but i found it in the diabetic area along with all the other creams and lotions that dont work. i think i have tried them all.

i hope this helps someone out there. anything that works, we should all share with others!
nancy

Most of the positive results for this ointment are from new posters, if you represent this company (neuragen) please say so. Thanks

Neuragen
 

Hi,

I'm not representing the company (which is Origin BioMed, not Neuragen). I just wanted to share my mother and her friend's success with Neuragen (which is a topical solution, not an ointment). I'd suggest that people try it for themselves, like my mother did, and decide for themselves if it helps with their particular pain. My mom also got a $5 off coupon for Neuragen by e-mailing the company from their Neuragen website.

Silas.

Neuragen clinical paper published
 

Hello all,

Thought this might be of interest to all who were asking about Neuragen.

Clinical research on the effect of Neuragen on neuropathic pain has been published in a peer-reviewed clinical publication.

The trial concluded:

"Neuragen provided significant relief from neuropathic pain in an all cause neuropathy group. Participants with diabetes within this group experienced similar pain relief."

The Neuragen publication is available online at biomedcentral:

biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/10/22

Silas.

Well, it MIGHT work for some people, but it DOESN'T work for others. It did NOTHING for my husband, and last week we went to the Peripheral Neuropathy support group meeting in NYC and all of us share what we have used for our pain.

One guy stood up and said: 'I tried this Neuragen stuff, and IT DID NOTHING".

So what works for some doesn't do the trick for others.

melody

Yes, according to the clinical paper, it was effective for about 80% of the people who were in the trial. So I guess those who don't find it effective are in the other 20%. Still, 80% efficacy is better than many prescription products without the side effects. Certainly worked for those I know.

Cheers,

Silas.

The active ingredient is the geranium oil, which is available in larger amounts for much less money elsewhere. (iherb for example).

In fact the geranium oil has a patent, you can find on the net.

I find the number of patients in these reports rather low.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...cO-luW6S4SDPLA

But if it works for you fine. I'll take a pass on it myself.

Neuragen active ingredients
 

Sorry, but in the interest of having accurate information on the forum, I must correct what you have said regarding the active ingredients in Neuragen.

I've looked at the product label when my mother purchased Neuragen and I've also found a copy of the label on the Neuragen website neuragen.com/labels/neuragen-pn.php and the active ingredients are the homeopathic ingredients, not the oils. You are incorrect on this.

Also, the Neuragen literature that you have referenced appears to be very out of date (the product packaging on the website where you got this paper isn't even the one that's been on the market for the past couple of years). Neuragen actually has 5 homeopathic active ingredients not just one, as indicated in this old paper. This appears to be a really old paper on an old formulation of Neuragen that isn't on the market any longer. The current formulation of Neuragen can be seen on the label that I put the URL for above. If you want to see a summary of the current clinical results for the formulation of Neuragen that's on the market now, I've found it at: neuragen.com/pdf/Neuragen_Trials.pdf

Also, to say that the number of patients in the trial is 'low' is irrelevant as the results were double-blinded and statistically significant versus placebo and were published in a peer-reviewed journal, and that's all important, scientifically (my science background coming through there).

Just want to keep the info on this product that really helped my mother accurate and up-to-date.

Like you say, if Neuragen works for you, then great. They have a money back guarantee on Neuragen anyway, so no harm in trying it.

Cheers,

Silas.