You need to read this
 

http://posturalrestoration.com/media...all_Player.pdf

what do you think about it ?

It's accepted by ncib and North American Journal of Sports Physical Therapy, so it's not a fake :

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953353/

Autors seem legit :
http://www.biology.ucr.edu/people/fa...GarlandCV.html
http://chhs.nau.edu/view_faculty.php?userid=kb357

They share all there exercices for free, and it's not targetted to the public.

1) the athlete try conventional PT, no improvement

2) the athlete try exercice to depress the ribs, restore a normal pelvic and rib cage position, correct posture of pelvis/trunk and scapula , free of symptome in 10 weeks, but symptoms return

3) In addition to 2); activating, lengthening, and inhibiting specific muscles during the rehabilitation of the athlete. Symptoms free on 6 weeks

I think a fit athlete would be able to do most of those poses & stretches, but not some of us that aren't fit to start with LOL:)

They don't address any part of the blood flow stopping in certain poses??:confused: Unless I missed that part I skimmed it quickly

I'll have to read it again when I have more time.

I use this one quite often- works well for me
Sternal postitional swiss ball stretch
[A sternal
positional Swiss ball release was prescribed
to reposition the head over
the shoulder girdles and inhibit the
anterior neck muscles, to decrease
forward head posture and lengthen
the bilateral pectoralis major muscles.
This was done twice daily for
five repetitions and held for five
breaths]

what i remember, they talk about neurovascular compression

This case is near same as RSI TOS.

I agree Jo with not adressing blood flow issue's although I think they had the swiss ball stretch you have mention here and other threads. I will have to try that one to see if it helps me.

My chiropractor suggested which has some good stretches although the ones where I have to raise my arms are a problem due to blood flow stopping are a problem and they are the ones I avoid

I haven't posted enough to put the link here but will send the link to Jo-
added- http://www.nismat.org/ptcor/thoracic_outlet/index.html

These exercice were done when he was symptoms free from more conservative exercices;
Some exercices are only for athlete with over developped muscle (7,8,9)

I get the balloon :)

I think the beginning of the article, does an excellent job of "explaining TOS" to a family member, friend, employer....the physiology of TOS.

Layman's terms I called it carpal tunnel of the neck and shoulder, to the wrist not just the wrist.

I agree with Jo, some of the exercises are far too much for many of us. I do think that there are some we may want to test try as a group and document if it hurt helped, no difference.

What exercise plan we did and the nature of our TOS neruo, vascular, C ribs.
Accident
Clots
How long we had TOS.

The theory is correct behind it.
Postural changes POST TOS are conclusive and do contribute to symptoms and pain.

I had an excellent diagram that is no longer at the hosted site TOS101.
The diagram showed when the shoulder is tilted from TOS structural reaction to the nerves, spasms, the tilt is picked up in the eye, and the hips tilt the opposite way to compensate,
THUS why so many TOSers have back issure too.

KEY is keeping what we have and not getting worse. Trying to get symptoms into a remission.

Always need ROM, safe stretching, encourage posture.

The athlete as soon as he opened his mouth about "ZINGERS" had the top PT massagers, medical care on top of it.

Many have to "go right back on the field" with out a diagx or treatment to the very "football field" job that incited the injury. OR injury or TOS from another source is escalated by the job, hobby, life style of a type A personality.

I think a follow up of this young man would be interesting too, I did not notice when the article was published and the injury occurred...just too much reading at the moment. But a long term follow up would be interesting. Does he stick to the program have reoccurred, etc.

Jo,
I did see when they did the grip test I think it was the grip did represent his athletic ability, but it was interesting that the therapist pressing on the outlet area reduced the strength grip.

Thanks for sharing
di

About muscle inhibiton :

http://www.google.com/search?q=muscl...w&start=0&sa=N

http://www.integrative-healthcare.or...g_recipro.html