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lined_in_silver 02-24-2013 10:44 PM

many PN questions for the experts pls!
 
Hi everyone. Just a brief overview first.
2.5 years of -Neurogenic bladder, numbness in hands in the a.m, burning sensations anywhere and everywhere except head, and gut wrenching stomach burning, bloating,pressure. Weak and painful forearms down to wrist both sides ,arthritis in fingers, painful to squeeze any finger. Pelvic pain, sensitivity, endometriosis, PCOS, and more recently, suspected fibromyalgia. Lucky eh!!!??
Take Lyrica 75 mg at night and oxycodone 20mg 3-4x daily
Age 29,female. No known cause of the neuropathy. Nerve conduction study Tuesday.

I take methylcobalamin 1000mcg every morning before eating. Tested many times and levels are good. Take vitamin d3 2000IU drops every day
Was taking alpha lipoic acid for many months, but ran out
Started L Carnitine complex ( so it has vit c, e, and coq10 in it) by Innovite.
I go to the gym for cardio 3-4 x a week. I do not drink alcohol.

Is there anything else I can do? I still suffer greatly and fight terror every single day that things will only get worse. The worst part is the way that my intestines feel like they are being squeezed and set on fire. Even when I press lightly on my abdomen it hurts like hell.
I've had ultrasounds and a laparoscopy,where they found endometriosis which was removed 1.5 yrs ago.

I feel like I am disabled. I need hope..I am beginning a new career and just met a lovely man.

Is there anything obvious I can do? Perhaps increase the supplements or lyrica?
Thank you kindly for your time.

Aussie99 02-25-2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by featherbullet (Post 960269)
Hi everyone. Just a brief overview first.
2.5 years of -Neurogenic bladder, numbness in hands in the a.m, burning sensations anywhere and everywhere except head, and gut wrenching stomach burning, bloating,pressure. Weak and painful forearms down to wrist both sides ,arthritis in fingers, painful to squeeze any finger. Pelvic pain, sensitivity, endometriosis, PCOS, and more recently, suspected fibromyalgia. Lucky eh!!!??
Take Lyrica 75 mg at night and oxycodone 20mg 3-4x daily
Age 29,female. No known cause of the neuropathy. Nerve conduction study Tuesday.

I take methylcobalamin 1000mcg every morning before eating. Tested many times and levels are good. Take vitamin d3 2000IU drops every day
Was taking alpha lipoic acid for many months, but ran out
Started L Carnitine complex ( so it has vit c, e, and coq10 in it) by Innovite.
I go to the gym for cardio 3-4 x a week. I do not drink alcohol.

Is there anything else I can do? I still suffer greatly and fight terror every single day that things will only get worse. The worst part is the way that my intestines feel like they are being squeezed and set on fire. Even when I press lightly on my abdomen it hurts like hell.
I've had ultrasounds and a laparoscopy,where they found endometriosis which was removed 1.5 yrs ago.

I feel like I am disabled. I need hope..I am beginning a new career and just met a lovely man.

Is there anything obvious I can do? Perhaps increase the supplements or lyrica?
Thank you kindly for your time.

I take supplements too, but mostly I eat healthy food. Get your thyroid checked because for years I was told my thyroid was normal and found out I had under active thyroid that went hyper and was suffering what I thought was a lot of anxiety/ autonomic symptoms and was finally diagnosed with Graves Disease. I had very high T4 and almost non existent TSH. Anyways I also find that a warm soothing bath takes the edge off every night and with my neuropathy there seems to be inflammation involved so I take Alka Seltzer. I also exercise and do Ballet. It's really hard because you are very young and should be more carefree. My PN started at 32 and I am 40 now. It actually went away for 3 years but surgery and a bad car accident in the same month sent my thyroid completely out of whack and the PN came back with a vengeance. By the way Kudos on meeting a great guy, enjoy that as much as you can. Try to keep the pain controlled and talk to your GP or whoever about pain management because pain if left to its own devices will ruin your outlook on life and self esteem. Your very young and have a long life to lead, therefore try to stay positive about all this, have a good support network in place, be active, and keep good records of all tests and treatments you have and what has worked, what has made things worse and so forth. You may find patterns over time and be able to manage this better.

Ps. With your Gyno problems it sounds as if your hormones may be out of whack. Estrogen & progesterone due to the PCOS and so forth. I have been reading up on how hormones affect our bodies and on a women's health forum, a surprising number of women on there claim they have neuropathy of unknown origin as they get closer to menapause. I know you are too young for that but hormone imbalances are a definite cause for neuropathy.

Best of luck,
Aussie

mrsD 02-25-2013 06:06 AM

When so many things seem to be going wrong... one needs
to step back and analyze things.

For example...did the burning in your pelvic area become worse after the laparoscopies/surgeries?

Do you have edema at all...swelling of the face/neck?
Difficulty breathing? Difficulty bending over, or bending arms and legs?

Has your doctor done autoimmune testing? For lupus or other autoimmune markers? Testing for elevated blood proteins?

Do certain foods make the intestinal thing worse? Spices, peppers, etc? Sometimes keeping a log of what you eat at each meal, what activities you do, etc may show triggers.
Gluten intolerance is a huge masquerader and can affect lots of areas with painful symptoms. Other intolerances too, can be confusing. Sometimes with other foods like nightshades or lily family (onions/garlic), there are thresholds you can have, where one day is okay, but several days in a row, will give you symptoms. When this happens it is difficult to pin down, the culprits.

Have you been tested for Candida? This can cause burning all over. Have you tried thiamine or the newer form, benfotiamine?
If that works for you, then Candida is a possibility.

davidl 02-25-2013 08:37 AM

With the variety of things you described, I would definitely have some autoimmune tests done if you haven't already. For example, a starting point might be the ANA test. Those who have autoimmune disorders most of the time have a positive ANA.

Just curious, what do you treatment wise for the bladder? My small fiber neuropathy has been giving my bladder a terrible time here lately.

lined_in_silver 02-25-2013 08:34 PM

Good morning,
I am so happy to see all of these replies!
I'm sorry if I don't answer all of the questions on the first shot, but here it goes.

Thyroid - been tested more times than I can count. I know I am on the hyper side, because I am thin, jumpy, quick digestion, etc. Even a naturopathic doctor looked at the results and said it was fine. My only abnormal test results are always low creatinine levels, and low blood sugar. If I don't eat every couple hours, I am in big trouble.

Regarding immunological explanations - my neurologist that I just saw once a week ago said that she would refer me to a rheumatologist ( that could take up to 9 months here in Ottawa, Ontario)
However, she did give me a sheet for blood work which includes ANA, RA factor, and others, and I did that this morning.

Unfortunately, I have found nothing that helps the bladder. Obvious things like avoiding caffeine are a good start. I go to the washroom frequently, and have episodes of burning with no infection. I've had two cystoscopies, because we were convinced that I had interstitial cystitis. But no ulcers. Finally realized that it was a nerve issue, when everything else started acting up.

Mrs D- the burning in the pelvic area including thighs led to the laparoscopy.
I don't have edema, and no breathlessness. Well, sometime the opiates suppress my breathing but that is different .

I have been tested for food I tolerance, and the only big one that came up was eggs. So I avoid those. I eat so much and so often that I am not able to tell if certain foods affect me. I NEED to start a food journal.

I have done two candida cleanses. I didn't feel much different after. I do crave sweets, but I attribute that to my wonky blood sugars. I don't have any brain fog or fatigue ( other than an afternoon slump)

I'll leave it at that. Appreciate the responses. Let's keep brainstorming!!

hopeful 02-25-2013 09:26 PM

Hi, I have had a lot of the problems that you have. Actually a few years before this started in my legs etc. I was dx'd with vulvadynia and vestibulitis.There are external creams you can use for this. Just like you they assumed I had interstitial cystitis. I did not. Ask you GYN to test for any and all yeast infections. I went to someone who specialized only in this and they found one. I had to use med for it for brief period and all the symptoms went away.

A few years after that I developed neuropathy. Idiopathic is what I'm told. I know you said you had food intolerance testing done but try a gluten free diet for a short period and see if it helps. I had terrible stomach burning and pain. I had my galbladder removed and lots of testing, The only thing that showed was delayed emptying. I started the gluten free diet and it took a little while but the burning went away. It did not help my other symptoms but my stomach does good these days. Also, I'm glad you have decided to keep a journal. It really helps to find what foods your neuropathy can't tolerate.

I think it is wonderful that you have been able to continue to exercise. It is also great that you have found someone. A strong support system is essential.

I don't know how you will feel about it but if you want to try meditating. It helps me so much with my emotional state. I started doing it to sleep but just recently I am trying to do it everyday. It reallly helps my attitude and relieves my worries.

Good Luck with everything!

Aussie99 02-26-2013 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 960577)
Hi, I have had a lot of the problems that you have. Actually a few years before this started in my legs etc. I was dx'd with vulvadynia and vestibulitis.There are external creams you can use for this. Just like you they assumed I had interstitial cystitis. I did not. Ask you GYN to test for any and all yeast infections. I went to someone who specialized only in this and they found one. I had to use med for it for brief period and all the symptoms went away.

A few years after that I developed neuropathy. Idiopathic is what I'm told. I know you said you had food intolerance testing done but try a gluten free diet for a short period and see if it helps. I had terrible stomach burning and pain. I had my galbladder removed and lots of testing, The only thing that showed was delayed emptying. I started the gluten free diet and it took a little while but the burning went away. It did not help my other symptoms but my stomach does good these days. Also, I'm glad you have decided to keep a journal. It really helps to find what foods your neuropathy can't tolerate.

I think it is wonderful that you have been able to continue to exercise. It is also great that you have found someone. A strong support system is essential.

I don't know how you will feel about it but if you want to try meditating. It helps me so much with my emotional state. I started doing it to sleep but just recently I am trying to do it everyday. It reallly helps my attitude and relieves my worries.

Good Luck with everything!

Hi Feather,

I just wanted to comment on your post again. Back to thyroid, you say your on the high side of normal? In Australia T4 lab range is 9-19. At a T4 of 16, I had lost 1/3 my hair, lost 10 kilos in a month. I ate like a horse but within 5 minutes I needed to go to the bathroom due to increased gut motility. Also tremor,palps, frequent urination, and flushing. At 16 My numbers were within normal range still. My GP was happy with those numbers, but having a strong maternal history of Hashimotos, i requested a referral to an Endo. The endo sent me for a scan which was a radioiodine uptake scan and the result showed diffuse toxic thyroid. Along with my labs and my symptoms she diagnosed me with Graves. I didnt take antithyroid pills tsraight away and my T4 kept on climbing and i lost another 5 kilos without wanting to and I started on the meds. I had become unwell from being hyper and then crashing back to norml. As you can see the effects were systemic. Every organ system was involved, every cell. I am not a hormone expert but with your Gyno issues which are hormonal based and possibly hyperthyroid and a systemic manifistation to your neuropathy, I would be at least considering this direction in the absence of other systemic autoimmune illnesses. Hormones affect every cell in the body and can cause widespread symptoms that may or may not fully resolve even after the imbalance is corrected. There is no definite way to know for certain if my thyroid caused all my problems but mine is autoimmune therefore quite a possibility. I also have chronic cystitis and That burning you mention. Though i think it's my female hormones that have caused this.

lined_in_silver 02-26-2013 11:23 PM

To the last two posters, I really want to tell you how happy, grateful, and less alone in thus I feel. Thanks so very much.

You both provided great tips and things to try/think about. Whether or not I think it has any connection or not. After I finish this box of cereal, I'll switch to gluten free. That's about the only grains I ear aside from rice. The gut pain, burning and bloating( and gas!!) Is my bodies way of screaming at me for something I am consuming obviously. I am far too anxious and restless to meditate. I know that only means I really need it! I have taken a breathing/yoga/meditation class and therefore have some of the practice under my belt.
OK, so thyroid. Seriously, many of the symptoms you listed I can relate to but never thought of as being more than " who I am". Ravenous hunger and thirst are part of my daily life. I go to the washroom ( both 1 and 2) frequently. Although, I don't have flushing or heart palps (anymore). I'm steady at 125 pounds (5"6).
Yeast has frequently come up by both MD's ( visibly seeing it) and holistic practitioners. I don't have too many symptoms aside from craving sweets. But, I have hypoglycemia ( quite severely) and that is why my body demands them. I haven't taken antibiotics in probably 3 years, did 2 candida kits, probiotics, and eat plain unsweetened yogurt often . I would be surprised if it was the problem. It does keep coming up though, along with talk of parasites(yuck)

I had a nerve conduction study today . It was obvious to the technologist that I had carpel tunnel in both wrists,which explains the numbness in m hands ! I'll wait for my neuro to interpret the rest.
Maybe I should begun having a closer look at my hormonal problems and see if I can make any connections .

Again, thanks for caring enough to reply. The info is so valuable!
Feather

Aussie99 02-26-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 960577)
Hi, I have had a lot of the problems that you have. Actually a few years before this started in my legs etc. I was dx'd with vulvadynia and vestibulitis.There are external creams you can use for this. Just like you they assumed I had interstitial cystitis. I did not. Ask you GYN to test for any and all yeast infections. I went to someone who specialized only in this and they found one. I had to use med for it for brief period and all the symptoms went away.

A few years after that I developed neuropathy. Idiopathic is what I'm told. I know you said you had food intolerance testing done but try a gluten free diet for a short period and see if it helps. I had terrible stomach burning and pain. I had my galbladder removed and lots of testing, The only thing that showed was delayed emptying. I started the gluten free diet and it took a little while but the burning went away. It did not help my other symptoms but my stomach does good these days. Also, I'm glad you have decided to keep a journal. It really helps to find what foods your neuropathy can't tolerate.

I think it is wonderful that you have been able to continue to exercise. It is also great that you have found someone. A strong support system is essential.

I don't know how you will feel about it but if you want to try meditating. It helps me so much with my emotional state. I started doing it to sleep but just recently I am trying to do it everyday. It reallly helps my attitude and relieves my worries.

Good Luck with everything!

I agree with you Hopeful a good support system is so important. And a supportive partner is worth their weight in gold 10 times over. As for gluten, I nearly forgot to mention that I also have been gluten free for like 4.5 months. I had a course last week and I didn't mention to them that I had any special dietary requests. I was so hungry by 2 pm that I ate one of their big chocolate muffins. I spent the next 24 hours in a lot of pain and mostly gastro issues including massive cramping, bloating, and my intestines were contracting gain and again. I eat gluten free carbs and fibre therefore probably not responsible for my distress. What really surprised me is how bloated I got. I thought I looked pregnant, and I have a very flat tummy normally. Now I have a fear of muffins!!

mrsD 02-27-2013 08:11 AM

I really recommend Kefir ... it has so many more strains of probiotics in it... Lifeway has 12!

Kefir can really turn a dysbiotic gut around. The Lifeway we have
around here.. tastes good, and is not expensive. I've been using it since Sept 2011. The bloating and gas respond to kefir very well.

I also use some simethicone daily to keep the gas moving along.
This is called GAS-X and is also in some antacid products too, combined with calcium carbonate. It doesn't take much to help, so large doses are not typically needed.

Thiamine or benfotiamine is really helpful for systemic Candida, as it helps the elimination of aldehyde byproducts the yeast tend to overload our systems with.


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