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Hi,

1. My mdoc gave me a sample starter pack of Strattera.

2. Also she told me she would like me to take 15 grams of fish oil -- told me to find a brand with a high concentration of EPA. (She was very specific about the 15 grams.)

Mari

Starter pack has 30 pills
 

Hi,

The pack has thirty capsules in these sizes:

Days 1,2,3,4,5 --- 25 mgs

Days 6,7,8,9,10 --- 40 mgs

Days 11,12,13,14,15 --- 60 mgs

Days 16-30 --- 80 mgs

I am sure that 80 is too high. I wonder if I can split the capsules.

Mari

I guess mine come 500 mg per capsule so that is 3 of the nordic fish oils.1500 mg = 15 grams I think.
my pdoc told me I needed to take fish oil capsules with the ratio of epa to dha 4:1 ratio. needed for brain function.
nordic naturals makes them they are called epa and I found them on amazon cheaper than in the drug stores.
this is doable.
these are tolerable and lemon flavored but don't have any flavor really and no fish burp.
bizi

I was wrong about the fish oil numbers. 1000mg is equal to 1 gram. So she wants you to take 30 fish oil capsules a day?
That is crazy!!!!!!!!! correct me if I am wrong here.
bizi

It does sound crazy. I wonder what literature she read.
 

Bizi,


I am going to check my notes. I wrote on a scrap of paper that I put somewhere. She said it was going to be a lot of pills. She emphasized that it would be a lot.

Mari

may I ask why she wants you to take that many? I think I would like to see some journals from scholars on that one. I have a hard enough time just taking my 2 a day.
wow
bizi

Bizi,

I do not know why.
I would have to find my scribbled notes from yesterday and my life is a big mess right now.
I will look someday.
Right now I store my scraps of paper in one pile/ bag.

Regarding doses: This chart shows studies for fish oil for treatment of bipolar:
http://www.psycheducation.org/depres....htm#FishTable
Dr. Stoll's early and important study (1999) said 9.6 grams. Others on the chart used less.

Dr. Phelps (the guy who runs the web site) says the higher the EPA in the pills, the fewer pills you need because the EPA is important
--- although I recently read somewhere that it is not only abut the EPA.
The DHA plays an important too.

The current fish oil pills that I have in my house come in 1 gram sizes.
(1000 mgs)
http://www.evitamins.com/fish-oil-1000-mg-spectrum-7710
They do not feel too big for me. For the past week I have been trying to remember to take 2 a day (2 grams).

She did tell me why she wanted me on them.
I do not remember.


Mari

The nortic naturals have the highest epa to dha ratio 4;1. that is what my pdoc wants me to take, she sells it there but I buy mine from amazon for cheaper.I would ask her how much epa she wants you to take.
bizi

30 caps = live frogs
 

Hi Mari

have you been trying the strattera? if so... seeing any benefit?

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also did you figure out/find notes on the fish oil? I was told 3 g a day (= 3000mg) for mood by an MD who has had some training in alternative medicine. i've also come across that same dosage reading. that is the fish oil mg not the EPA mg.

i took some... hated it - it was fishy. but i think it is possible to find omega-3 supplements high in EPA that don't have the fishiness. i can't remember if my pills were 1000mg (3 pills for 3g/day) or 500mg (6pills for 3g/day) but as i was also taking GLA supps - not fishy but more big caps nonetheless, i know i was not managing to take all of the 3g it was just too much *stuff* to swallow.

with Bizi's caps which have the good EPA content ... 30 pills a day seems just *outrageous*. :thud: even taken 10 at a time, 3x a day.. man! ... i'd feel like i swallowed a live frog! :eek: blehhhh!

if you can't find your notes, perhaps you could call her and tell her you lost your notes, could she give you the doses again. if says 15mg then the next time you see her you could say you don't feel comfortable with it and ask her if she would mind expounding on her reasons and her sources.

perhaps i will do some more research on this myself. 30 biggg capsules? GULP. :Noooo:

RIBBET! RIBBET!

waves

The nordic naturals(called EPA) that I get from amazon with the higher epa don't have a fishy taste but only have 500mg per pill so two equals the 1 gram.
bizi