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zanpar321 02-15-2014 11:32 PM

Manganese poisoning resembles Parkinson's and apparently may be curable
 
Manganese poisoning (which resembles Parkinsons) which affects miners and welders apparently is very treatable using para-aminosalicylic acid. see link below:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16766929

See also the discussion below:

Purdue University recently reported that one cause of Parkinson's disease is too much manganese. Manganese is an essential mineral. However, like any good thing, too much can be toxic.

http://www.secondopinionnewsletter.c...ns-disease.htm

A recent study finds that Medicare recipients who live in urban areas with high levels of manganese emissions are about 75 percent more likely to develop Parkinson's disease compared to those in urban areas with lower manganese emissions. Though the causes of Parkinson's disease are not established with certainty, prior studies suggest exposure to environmental toxicants – particularly metals and pesticides – may play a role in the development of the disease.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.o...son-disease://

Manganese is also found in gas or jet fuel. I was exposed to lots of jet fuel and jet exhaust when I worked in the Navy on an aircraft carrier. I wonder if I have this and also how many Parkinson's patients have manganese poisoning instead of PD!

Does anyone have any experience with this? How do you find out if you have manganese poisoning?

Jomar 02-16-2014 01:35 AM

testing for Manganese poisoning -
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mang...en-US:official

http://digitalfire.com/4sight/hazard...tkins_406.html

soccertese 02-16-2014 08:44 AM

your're going to waste a lot of time imho trying to find a quick "cure" for your pd, assuming you have pd. keep in mind you're posting information that has been known for years, not just manganese but excessive iron has been researched as a possible cause of PD and iron chelation tested to see if pd can be reversed - didn't work - you can find this info very easily if you did a little more research, read a general history on pd. i tried chelation therapy soon after my diagnosis, went to a MD who gave expensive IV's, then switched to a do it yourself method which involved taking chelating drugs orally every 4 hours, one was a prescription drug for which my neuro wrote me a RX. i had urine and hair mineral analyses done and the only metal i was high in was titanium, i had titanium crowns, allergic to gold and broke composite crowns.
stopped after a month, i was exhausted. 12 years after diagnosis, i have pd.

best of luck in your "search" but keep in mind that the obvious causes and treatments for pd were tested years ago. welders have sued manufacturers of getting pd from manganese poisoning but if it were a major cause of pd that would have been noticed years ago by there being clusters of pd by profession.

zanpar321 02-16-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1051356)
your're going to waste a lot of time imho trying to find a quick "cure" for your pd, assuming you have pd. keep in mind you're posting information that has been known for years, not just manganese but excessive iron has been researched as a possible cause of PD and iron chelation tested to see if pd can be reversed - didn't work - you can find this info very easily if you did a little more research, read a general history on pd. i tried chelation therapy soon after my diagnosis, went to a MD who gave expensive IV's, then switched to a do it yourself method which involved taking chelating drugs orally every 4 hours, one was a prescription drug for which my neuro wrote me a RX. i had urine and hair mineral analyses done and the only metal i was high in was titanium, i had titanium crowns, allergic to gold and broke composite crowns.
stopped after a month, i was exhausted. 12 years after diagnosis, i have pd.

best of luck in your "search" but keep in mind that the obvious causes and treatments for pd were tested years ago. welders have sued manufacturers of getting pd from manganese poisoning but if it were a major cause of pd that would have been noticed years ago by there being clusters of pd by profession.

I've tried chelation for a few years too using dmsa and alpha lipoic acid. I still have PD symptoms. Yep, I've been aware of the iron as a possible cause for years also. I'm looking for any solution, quick or slow that works. So far no luck. The manganese possibility is worth pursuing I believe, especially since I have no loss of smell which is a distinction between PD and manganese poisoning. PD seems to be a multi-headed critter with multiple causes and possible solutions. Good luck on your search as well.

soccertese 02-16-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zanpar321 (Post 1051364)
I've tried chelation for a few years too using dmsa and alpha lipoic acid. I still have PD symptoms. Yep, I've been aware of the iron as a possible cause for years also. I'm looking for any solution, quick or slow that works. So far no luck. The manganese possibility is worth pursuing I believe, especially since I have no loss of smell which is a distinction between PD and manganese poisoning. PD seems to be a multi-headed critter with multiple causes and possible solutions. Good luck on your search as well.

just curious, what were your doses of DMSA and ALA and dosing schedule over your years of chelating? my chelation therapy used pretty high doses. the worry of course in chelation therapy is you'll just move the metals from your tissues into your brain and you should have any amalgams removed before hand.

zanpar321 02-16-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1051366)
just curious, what were your doses of DMSA and ALA and dosing schedule over your years of chelating? my chelation therapy used pretty high doses. the worry of course in chelation therapy is you'll just move the metals from your tissues into your brain and you should have any amalgams removed before hand.


Good advice on removing the amalgams first. I had 11 amalgams removed within four months of diagnosis back in 2011. Then I started Andy Cutler's DMSA and ALA protocol with 12.5 mg of DMSA then added 25mg ALA which I did every 4 hours as best I could. I gradually increased the dmsa to 100mg every 4 hours. Now I take 600 mg of ALA daily. From what I read it is not a good idea AT ALL to take DMSA or ALA while you have even 1 filing! I probably should have used DMPS from what I've been finding in my research lately.

badboy99 02-16-2014 10:32 AM

Very true, remove all amalgams beforehand. Your doctor can order the test for you. Have you had a Datscan?
Quote:

Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1051366)
just curious, what were your doses of DMSA and ALA and dosing schedule over your years of chelating? my chelation therapy used pretty high doses. the worry of course in chelation therapy is you'll just move the metals from your tissues into your brain and you should have any amalgams removed before hand.


soccertese 02-16-2014 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy99 (Post 1051370)
Very true, remove all amalgams beforehand. Your doctor can order the test for you. Have you had a Datscan?

what test?
never had a DATSCAN

badboy99 02-16-2014 10:44 AM

sorry was responding to Zanpar

zanpar321 02-16-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy99 (Post 1051370)
Very true, remove all amalgams beforehand. Your doctor can order the test for you. Have you had a Datscan?

No I haven't. How can I get a Datscan done?


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