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lindsayshealth 10-14-2014 12:42 PM

SCM/Sternocleidomastoid
 
Did any of you who have had TOS surgery have your SCM divided????

abegins 10-15-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lindsayshealth (Post 1102969)
Did any of you who have had TOS surgery have your SCM divided????

Who does that?

Jomar 10-15-2014 12:01 PM

I wonder what would be the reason for it, an anomaly of some sort?
I don't recall seeing any posts mentioning SCM /surgery..

16rhonda 10-15-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lindsayshealth (Post 1102969)
Did any of you who have had TOS surgery have your SCM divided????

I was told by my surgeon I had anterior scalene and most of middle scalene removed.
I started having severe spasms in the sternoclastoid muscle and pain where the tendon connects to clavicle 6 mos postop. I'm 1 yr postop now and still have this pain. Its worse by end of day, some days worse than others.
Why are u asking this? :confused:

lindsayshealth 10-16-2014 09:12 AM

Asking because SCM is sometimes involved in TOS. It is absolutely involved in CTNVS/CTOS (google it). Some surgeons divide the SCM instead of ohmyhoid (sp?). If you read the surgery protocol you will see that some do that.

Rhonda, did your surgeon explain WHY you would be having that pain now????? That sounds terrible. I have my surgery consult on Nov. 12th.

16rhonda 10-17-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lindsayshealth (Post 1103380)
Asking because SCM is sometimes involved in TOS. It is absolutely involved in CTNVS/CTOS (google it). Some surgeons divide the SCM instead of ohmyhoid (sp?). If you read the surgery protocol you will see that some do that.

Rhonda, did your surgeon explain WHY you would be having that pain now????? That sounds terrible. I have my surgery consult on Nov. 12th.

Never heard this bf. Saw surgeon mid Sept. He says I have Pec minor s, but that this doesn't cause neck pain. After my last surgery he said the scalenes were so fibrous like a sharp knife, the worst hes ever seen. I think this is why he took out most of middle scalene too. I read Pec m can cause neck pain.
idk maybe scm is working overtime cuz other muscles are gone.
What's ctnvs/ ctos stand for?
Good luck w you consult!

Jomar 10-17-2014 11:52 PM

Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency

lindsayshealth 10-18-2014 10:23 AM

Jomar--

CCSVI is simliar, yes but CTOS = Cerebral Thoracic Outlet Syndrome

CTNVS = cerebral thoracic neurovascular syndrome

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11887092

there is a lot more out there on this, and yes, Jo, there is a correlation to CCSVI.

Jomar 10-18-2014 11:12 AM

LOL must have got my google results confused..

16rhonda 10-19-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lindsayshealth (Post 1103835)
Jomar--

CCSVI is simliar, yes but CTOS = Cerebral Thoracic Outlet Syndrome

CTNVS = cerebral thoracic neurovascular syndrome

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11887092

there is a lot more out there on this, and yes, Jo, there is a correlation to CCSVI.

Lindsay
what is cerebral tos? Never heard of this!
Thanks


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