I need severe help
 

I have been dx with Fibro/CFS/ME and IBS. However within the last month I have been having a problem with vomiting for no reason. It isn't necessarily after I eat or anything, I could just be walking or cleaning house or even out doing errands and all of a sudden w/o warning (no stomach cramps or pain) I just vomit. (sorry so descriptive). It is like a baby when they have projectile vomiting.

Also I have been having severe diarrhea. I drink plenty of water so that I don't get dehydrated, but today I have developed a fever and just feel awful. I keep verburping (vomit and burp) the food that I have had two and a half days ago. Even though I have had diarrhea it just seems like my stomach is not digesting the recent food that I have eaten.

I am sooooo sorry for being so descriptive on this, I just didn't know what other words to use or how to explain it. I go see my gastroenterologist on December 26, but I just am worried about what is going on.

Does any one have any ideas/suggestions/comments. Please I am begging here. Anything will help.

Missy :Help:

Can you put a call in to dr - sounds like 6 days might be too long to wait if this continues.
Often they will hold spots open for urgent appts or they can squeeze you in.
Or go to an urgent care center if they can't see you.
Or even ER?
Especially if you are sure it's not a flu or something like that- I wouldn't want to go 6 days in that condition - especially during the Holidays.
It could be something simple and treatable or something that needs to be dx'd and treated.

Hi Missy,

"Surprising Connections
Doctors Travell and Simons discovered that other symptoms from abdominal trigger points can take the form of nausea, chronic diarrhea, loss of appetite, projectile vomiting, and simple indigestion..."



Good Luck

Missy...

My sister was doing this same thing as you described and was diagnosed with severe gerd (acid reflux disease).


I don't know if that is what you may have or not.. I'm NO doctor... but it may be something to check into...


Definitely do get it checked and SOON!


:hug:
Abbie

Thank you so much. I looked at the site given and it sounds like that could be the problem, but this is so constant and today has been a really bad day. I can't hold anything down or in for that fact. I am really feeling like something may be wrong. I am waiting for my husband to come home and see if he thinks we should go to the ER.

Thank you all for your post. Anyone else that has anything to say, please feel free to post.

Missy

Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome
 

Missy,
You should be checked out by Your Dr. or ER, if the examination and test results are idiopathic (without cause) then consider Myofascial Trigger Point Therapy.
You may also be interested in reading this case study at:

http://www.painbustersclinic.com.au/...s/vomiting.htm

by Gary A Clark, myotherapist

"Cyclic vomiting syndrome may sometimes be caused by the 'belch button' - a little-known or undertood trigger point:

It all started when Janet, the lady in question, had to undergo surgery to have fibroids removed.

As she’d had abdominal surgery some years before the surgeon decided to re open the old scar down the linear alba, that is right down the middle of the abdomen.

The operation went well, even though the fibroid was rather large, as the surgeon said afterwards almost as big as a football; still all went well until the third day into recovery.

That is when the vomiting started, every thirty minutes, regardless of whether there was food in her stomach or not. Of course the first suspicion was that a piece of intestine was caught up on the wound closure, still x-rays showed nothing, neither did ultra sound, MRI, or any of the other tests they did, and still the vomiting continued round the clock.

Her husband Frank was so concerned that he spent all his spare time with her, so much so that the ward sister set up a camp stretcher for him so he could sleep in her room.

The doctor in charge called in specialists to solve this problem, and still the vomiting continued. Every morning a collection of five or six doctors would gather at the foot of her bed and discuss the case, then leave, without so much as even speaking to either the patient or her husband.

After this had been going on for several weeks, Frank collared the doctor who seemed to be in charge and said to him.

“ Correct me if I am wrong, but I gather that you believe that there is an obstruction to the intestine that doesn’t show up on the x-rays.” The doctor agreed that this was so.

“ Then why don’t you operate to correct it?” Frank asked.

“Oh we couldn’t do that,” the doctor said, “she is too weak and probably wouldn’t survive the operation.”

As Frank said to me much later, “That came as something of a shock, I realized that my wife was starving, and dehydrating and no one could help.”

“So what are you going to do” he asked the doctor, expecting some profound answer to the problem.

“We are waiting,” said the doctor, “sometimes nature fixes these things itself.”

As Frank said to me afterwards. “I was stunned, here we had a modern hospital with all the latest equipment, and six of the states top specialists, and they were waiting for nature to fix it!” “I can tell you, on that day my faith in the medical profession reached an all time low.”

After eight weeks of vomiting it did actually stop one day, so they discharged her as quickly as they could. And just as well too because 48 hours later it started again, but this time Janet stayed home at her own request. As she said, “Why go back they cant do anything for me, and my bed at home is much more comfortable than a hospital bed.”

After two more weeks of repeated vomiting, Frank came to me as a friend, with the problem, wanting to know if I knew of any treatment that just might help.

I remembered seeing a mention of “projectile vomiting” mentioned in the Travell & Simons Trigger Point manual, so I looked it up. (Its in volume one, chapter 49: abdominal muscles.) Travell calls it a “Belch Button” she says

“The Belch Button is a trigger point (TP) that is uncommon but may be of critical importance to the patient who has one. It is found on the left or right at or just below the angle of the 12th rib. When sufficiently active, this TP. Causes spontaneous belching and in severe cases projectile vomiting, which can be deeply embarrassing and a serious postoperative complication."

Could this be the cause of the problem, after all it is an abdominal trigger point and it’s the abdominal muscles that contract to cause vomiting. I decided to check it out and see.

I went to their house, Frank seated me in the living room while he went to get Janet. She arrived a few minutes later carrying her vomit bowl in front of her, (projectile vomiting gives you no warning, so you have to be always ready). As she approached a vomiting episode struck, and she turned her back on me presumably to avoid splashing me. I thought "well, this is it!."

I rose to my feet stepping up to her wrapped my left arm around her waist and pressed the first two knuckles of my right hand into her back just either side of the spine at about the 12th rib.

The results were dramatic, she stopped vomiting instantly, mid heave!!!

So we stood there with my knuckles in here back and an arm around her waist and waited for it to start again, after about a half a minute she turned her head to look at me, with tears in here eyes, she said “ I think it’s stopped”

That was seven years ago and it still hasn’t returned, I think maybe it really has gone for good.

It’s at times like these that I feel truly privileged to be able to help.

I sincerely hope this information may help someone else with a similar problem.

Gary

PS. Thinking back on this episode it sometimes amazes me that I could do in 3 seconds what the doctors puzzled over for weeks. Still to me the real heroes are Drs Travell & Simon. They worked for forty years researching muscular trigger points and then wrote the books so that people like me could use their knowledge to help others.

They are my heroes.

about the author: Gary A Clark is a myotherapist ..."

Good Luck and Go Steelers

painfree...thanks
 

I wanted to thank you for the information about the "Belch Button". It truly is real. I see a massage therapist weekly and I asked her if she knew anything about it and if she understood it. She does. So she has been working on me for the last two weeks and I haven't vomited once. She is only concerned because she doesn't know if doing it w/o me having a episode with in the last 24 hours means that it worked or if it just quit on its own. So we are going to skip that part of the treatment this week and see if the symptoms return.

Thank you so much and WHAT A BUMMER ABOUT THE STEELERS! lol

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hmm-
 

I would go to the Seeking Doctors section here and ask for a doctor in oyur area.


I had all of those acronyms & more- IBS, CFS, MCS, TMJ, IC, RLS, FMS
and it was Lyme disease, HME Ehrlichiosis, Babesiosis & Bartonella. Today
I am 100% symptom free today and it is sooo nice. I was in chronic agony and never thought I would have a day wihtout pain.

I am the support group facilitator for SC County, CA and yours is a very, very common presentation. Gerden variety TBD. Seriously. I would try an LLMD, a Lyme Literate MD. If you don't want to do that I would make sure you are tested for

Human Monocytic Ehrlichiosis which can cause IBS symptoms
Human Granulytic Ehrlichiosis
Babesiosis- Microti & MO1
Western Blot Lyme disease- and get the bands (39 kda is species specific)

Seriously, it could easily be Lyme & TBDs,
Best wishes,
Sincerely,
Sarah

p.s.
 

p.s. i had vomiting fits and fevers too- it was awful-

Gastro?
 

have you seen the gastro before? ...or is this a first time trip for you?

Billye