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Brian 01-09-2008 12:32 AM

Alpha Lipioc acid
 
I am really amazed of the increase of energy and general feeling of well being i have experienced since starting on this antioxidant, i am wondering if others here have experienced similar or other reactions whilst taking this supplement., i am taking 600 mg daily.

Brian :)

glenntaj 01-09-2008 07:04 AM

I've had good experiences with alpha lipoic--
 
--and with the second generation R-lipoic (which I take now--it's supposed to eliminate the non-active isomers, so you can take less, which is improtant for those with stomach sensitivity to acid). These effects haven't been so much in the area of energy generation, but there does seem to be a reduction in burning-type pains.

One thing--in addition to being a potent antioxidant, lipoic had blood sugar lowering effects. Indeed, it's been used in Europe, as a prescription substance, in conjunction with diabetes treatment for a long time. But it can have significant effects in that area, so care must be taken with dosage, especially if one is taking any diabetic medication, to make sure blood sugar isn't driven TOO low.

Brian 01-09-2008 09:29 PM

Thanks for your reply Glentaj, i did check my blood glucose levels vigorously when i first started taking ALA and still do keep a constant eye on them, they have been very good, at fasting levels, before meals and 2 hours after meals.
Luckily i have had no stomach or any other possible side affects from this supplement, i did forget about the newer generation [ R] ALA which i will order next time when to need some more, thanks for reminding me.

Initially i got them because of the benefits that thioctic acid can have with helping to eliminate oxidative stress, whilst researching ALA i did come across literature commenting about possible energy increase but had no idea that it would be so profound.
I have only slight burning left on extremely hot days these days, so today and tomorrow will be a good test, as it's going to be really hot, today expected 106 F or 41 C in our measures and tommorow around the same.

Brian :)

daniella 01-10-2008 11:16 AM

Brian off topic a little but how is your new eating and lifestlye change going that you were working on? On this note I am going to get advised today hopefully on these supplement type things. I was wondering is this research you have done and then tried? I am so fearful of trying things and then when I ask my docs I get a different answer from all. Today I am for sure asking about the b vitamins. I need a booster.

Brian 01-10-2008 04:24 PM

Hi Daniella, i had lost that extra weight i had previously gained plus a bit more, so all up a 2 stone loss so i defiantly felt better just loosing that weight which is to be expected but the increase in energy i am referring to now is very different from that again, this is only after taking them for just over 2 weeks.

Even though i was originally diagnosed as being Prediabetic, i do virtually treat myself as being a diabetic 2, so keeping blood sugars right for me is paramount, ALA can lower blood sugars so constant checks is crucial whilst taking this supplement, it shouldn't be taken in combination with any perscription meds that lower blood sugars, ALA is really an " old boy on the block " Wings [David] has had in his " suggested supplements " in the Stickies for ages, its been used overseas to treat diabetic neuropathy for over 50 years.
There is heaps on the net regarding alpha lipioc acid, here is just one
http://lefcms.lef.org/newsletter/2006/2006_11_07.htm

Regarding taking B vitamins, i take a multi B & 1mg b12 methyl on an empty stomache every day, been taken the multi B for over 4 years never had a problem, it defiantly does give me more energy.

Brian :)

RLuckyL 01-12-2008 08:43 PM

B vitamins
 
I take liquid B vitamins and feel they help.

Ron

daniella 01-12-2008 09:46 PM

Very interesting and good job on the weight. I am glad you found more to help you too.
Rlucky why liquid just personal choice?

Brian 01-12-2008 11:03 PM

Just a quick note about the affect that the ALA had on the extremely hot days,
i can say now that instead of the expected slight burning on the 106 F day, i had completely no burning at all, marvelous :)

mrsD 01-13-2008 08:36 AM

That is wonderful, Brian...
 
Just so you know, I had to make an order at iherb for my husband (he uses inositol powder) so I ordered R lipoic and benfotiamine. I am going to try both,
to see what happens. They were very reasonable in price and I can afford them.

My fasting sugar was slightly higher this check up from last, so I would like to see it down. And I still get some burning...not as much as last year, but it is still there. The severe weather change we had (50 degree change) really hurt!

So I will post on a new thread any improvements I see. ;)

Brian 01-13-2008 04:36 PM

Thanks MrsD, i will be very interested in your results too.
Iherb prices are excellent value for money, i have found that it is still cheaper to import from iherb, than to buy supplements here in Australia.
good luck
Brian :)


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