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Gazelle 09-25-2008 04:56 PM

Neuropsych testing's exhausting
 
:holysheep: Wow...... I forgot how bad it can be after the testing. I'm bushed. :thud::thud::thud:

It was pretty funny, the only question I remembered from my prior session (because it deeply disturbed me that I could not remember it) was: How are a fly and a tree similar? So I told them they couldn't ask me that question cuz I knew the proper answer. Told the neuropsych doc before the testing and told the person administering the tests. Um.... ok. They did and I gave the right answer and then answered it like I did the first time around. She just laughed.

:Writting:

There were so many numbers, dots, pictures, words..... I'm brain fried. Oh and how DO you do odds anyway? I mean, if you have 6 red paperclips, 4 green, and 2 yellow and you mix them up and select one, what are the odds that you'll get a green paperclip? I HATE MATH!!

Oh..... I strongly suggest not using words like : "appellation" or "antimony" if you are asked to name words beginning with A or using "Duck Billed Platypus" or "chinchilla" as an animal when asked to name lots of animals. I did and she just looked at me slightly askance.

I actually forgot what I was talking about once when talking to the neuropsych doc. Lends credence to what I've been saying (and forgetting I've been saying) about my stupid memory.

I'm gonna plop myself in front of the TV tonight and NOT think. I"m not even gonna talk to anyone tonight--just vegetate. Back to work tomorrow......where I have to think.

Oh and I despise those stupid questions that are T/F and ask you things like: If cornered, I would tell the portion of truth that would be the least harmful to me. Um how do you answer that? The truth itself contains "the portion of truth that would be the least harmful to me" so if you tell the truth it contains the portion. If you say True, then you're possibly limiting yourself to just the portion of the truth and not the whole truth? If you say False, are you not telling the truth and lying? <sigh> Maybe I overthink things. :mfr_wha:

It's kind of like lumping my parents and family into a category and asking a question. There was one question like that. It was something like My parents and family are more critical of me than they should be. It was true for my parents and false for my family. So which applies to me? Hmmm.... both. And I'm sure that I can't answer T and F. <sigh again> Separate out the parents from the family and I can answer the questions "as applied to me." Lump them together and I have a moral dilemma on how to answer the question cuz there's no right answer to it the way they phrase it. :Hum:

And what's with all the "I love (loved--if deceased) my father" and "I love (loved--if deceased) my mother" questions? I have a not so good relationship with BOTH my parents and worse with my mother. I don't know HOW I feel about my dad and know I don't love my mom. Just ducky.

And during the lovely symbol/number/letter and 1,2,3,4 test I started to get a headache and get nauseous looking at her flipping the chart fast as I answered. So I had to cover one eye and really concentrate, which helped. But ugh..... THAT didn't happen to me before. (I had an insane urge to want to draw eyeballs in the white circles on the black background. Is that NORMAL??? :rolleyes:) :Doh:

I gotta go shut down now. Will throw ball with dog just to help STOP the questions in my head. :Talkative:

:thud:

dmplaura 09-25-2008 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 376423)
How are a fly and a tree similar?

Ummm, fly paper? :Wheel:

lady_express_44 09-25-2008 06:41 PM

Phew, Gazelle . . . I'm exhausted just trying to follow your post. That sounds grueling!!!

Tell me, how are a fly and tree similar? :confused: Living organisms or something like that? :wink:

I didn't like my mom or dad either, but I loved them. Sounds contradictory, I suppose . . . but they did the best THEY could.

Glad it's over and you will be hopefully getting valid results this time.

Good luck!

Cherie

dmplaura 09-25-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_express_44 (Post 376482)
Tell me, how are a fly and tree similar? :confused: Living organisms or something like that? :wink:

I know!!! They can tolerate heat and humidity unlike most MS'ers! ;)

tovaxin_lab_rat 09-25-2008 10:37 PM

Could it be because you have a cold?

Hope you feel better soon.

Sounds like the MMPI! I had a real problem with that test. There were several questions on there that I had a problem answering because of the phrasing. Oh well, glad I have never had to do any neuro-psych testing and glad that yours is over.

:hug:

tree leaves and fly wings look similar. I remember that from my botany class.

RedPenguins 09-25-2008 11:07 PM

Okay, first: how are a tree and fly similar? sheesh, I feel stupid now!

Cheryl - I also have a problem with the MMPI. I had to take it when I was a teenager - and the shrink said they could not validate my results because I had LIED! Huh?

Well, the question was something about "swearing" - I said I never swear.... and the doctor told me I had just said fuc% a million times to him. I said, "That's not swearing, that's cursing!!!" Sigh. Apparently, that is called swearing....but I grew up and it was called cursing. Swearing, to me, meant making statements like, "I swear....yadda yadda yadda" - which I never did.

The MMPI is one of those "biased" tests that relies on language based on a norm that hasn't been updated in eons.

Okay, not back to the fly and tree?

~Keri

Twinkletoes 09-26-2008 12:20 AM

I am so impressed that you remembered so much of the test to be able to tell us about it!

I think you're smarter than you think you are! ;)


C'mon, tell us the answer to the fly/tree question!!! :rolleyes:

tovaxin_lab_rat 09-26-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes (Post 376662)
I am so impressed that you remembered so much of the test to be able to tell us about it!

I think you're smarter than you think you are! ;)


C'mon, tell us the answer to the fly/tree question!!! :rolleyes:

Read my post Twink! I answered the question!

Sheesh...:p

Gazelle 09-26-2008 04:13 PM

Actually, Cherie wins the prize for the answer. There may be other similarities, but only one "right" answer. For instance, "they both can be irritating" (buzzing around and giving you hay fever/rashes [poison oak and sumac]) or "they both drop things all over" (fly poop and tree leaves) or my original answer, "they both can go up in the air."

No, FG, it's not because I might be getting a cold. I don't feel crappy or anything, just have a cough and had some sinus pressure so may be working up to my (semi?) annual case of bronchitis and sinus infection. It's not there yet to the point where it's affecting me.

I think that the eye thing has more to do with the rapid flipping of the cards. It's similar to the problem I had when sitting in the passenger seat when in Wales--the motion of the landscape rapidly passing by in the rearview mirror made me a bit nauseous. Plus, we'd been at it all morning and most of the afternoon when she gave me that test. The MMPI-2 was the last thing she gave me.

Keri, I understand your problem with "lying." :) Too bad when we tell the truth we can be told we're lying. Ugh... I really hate the wording of the questions on the MMPI. Some of it's fine and easy to answer right away, but the other things....maybe I parse words too much. Didn't skip any of them and maybe should have.

Cherie, I used to love my mother. She's just pulled some amazingly cruel things on me and I can't justify keeping a relationship with her. At first when she started doing it, I loved her but didn't like her. Now I don't care one way or the other. She's got problems--real problems. I could forgive her for the things she did when I was a child because she did do the best she was able, but I do not forgive her for the things she did when I was an adult. You have to draw a line somewhere. Mine was at age 36. As for my father, how do you feel about a man who gets remarried when you're 13, tells you two weeks after it, and when you ask why you and your younger brother weren't invited he responds, "We only had close family there." I'm his DAUGHTER. That was his SON. How much closer family can you get?????? :confused::confused::confused::confused: That's been the hallmark of my relationship with my father since he and my mom split.

I, too, hope that I get valid results this time. His office was very professionally run, so that's a nice start. But I'll reserve my judgment until I see the resulting report. (and it has nothing to do with how well I did either) ;)


Laura, love the fly paper remark. :D

Twink, I've never professed to being smart. LOL I let people form their own opinions of that. I'm really worried more about memory issues.

Ugh..... who remembers things like the speed of light or the world population. Seriously! I used to know "ballpark" the speed of light but who uses that generally in their daily lives? I can give you the number of feet in a mile but not the speed of light. And the world population is in the billions but how many? Yet they ask these questions.

dmplaura 09-26-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazelle (Post 377025)
Laura, love the fly paper remark. :D

I honestly would have answered "Fly paper". It was the first thing that came to mind.

If I win a cookie, I hope it's low fat!!


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