Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)


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Hi there, and welcome to the family! sorry its under these circumstances tho, but you couldn't have found a better place for advice and support!

i've had rsd for almost 6 years now, and after about the 2nd year i had a bier block, and my pain went away for 3 months. i had another when the pain returned and i got no relief from it.

i've pretty much exhausted all meds and treatments, but last december i found a doc in la that agreed to do a ketamine infusion on me, and my pain went away for 6 weeks. i had a 2nd infusion in april and the pain is still gone. almost 5 months pain free and off all meds.
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Hi Keep Smilin,
Welcome, we are glad to have you join our family. Please know this is a safe caring group of friends, like yourself, having good days and very difficult daysl Regardless, we desire to help each other.
I'm sorry your SCS didn't work. Happy for you going to Drexel next spring. Sounds like you have done a ton of research.
Sounds like you are in considerable pain I personally don't believe we can reach a long last zero pain level, unless we are in remission. My RSD came following benign breast tumor surgery (2) Got frozen shoulder and started pt, but wasn't diagnosed for 4 years. After 100 pt , I did go into remission for at least a year. No pain= back to playing tennis, water skiing, snow skiing etc. It was torture-the physical therapy and 100 massage theray The pt group told me not to be surprised if I got frozen shoulder on the other side. Well we moved from Oregon to Arizona and after a few months, it did cross over-frozen shoulder in right side. More pt and massage therapy and pain. Didn't take as long this time a2nd remission. Back tennis, skiing etc. The 2nd remission lasted at least another year, (I had not been diagnosed with RSD- just frozen shoulder, shooting pains thru my back. While waterskiing, I felt a painful pull in my left hand (original surgery side) It swelled up terribly and Dr. said I had Rheumatoid Arthritis. I told him how could that be when my blood tests were negative for RA. So, flew back to Oregon to sports injury orthopedic hand specialist. He diagnosed me with RSD in less than a minute. sent me over to nuclear med test and it was confirmed. He started me on pt there in Oregon and ordered a tens unit. I came back to AZ and saw a neurologist-tests confirmed RSD saw hand orthopedic Dr who confirmed and went into therapy and hand densitsitization. I also did the hand desensitization at home. I took 6 plastic bowls and put cotton balls in one, sand in another, coffee grounds, rice, just different textures etc. Over a long period of time, I was able to use my hand. It is permanently partially paralyzed, but I can cut my food, button clothes etc. I'm very grateful for the use that I have. RSD used to be called shoulder -hand syndrome It then moved to other hand, and I got right back into therapy and have full use of my right hand. I have generalized or full body RSD now and a couple years ago, my toes started curling up off the floor, Dr. got me right into water therapy and I did the exercises every day. Toes are now touching the floor and I'm still mobile!!!Yeah It's been 14 years and I have a wonderful Dr. the last 5 years.
One thing off can put us into terrible flare and downward spiral. I wasn't sleeping-Ambien CR wasn't working. I wouldn't get to sleep till 5-6 in the A.M.
This really sent me in downward spiral. My Dr. was doing a 200 person study for a pharmaceutical company. The study took a strong drug and tried a low dose amount to see it's affect on fibromyalgia patients. The results are outstanding and will soon be published. Besides positive effect on fibro. it had an outstanding affect for restorative sleep. I went on it that same day. I stayed in bed 3 days, but I still sleep 9 hours straight. Because of the restorative sleep, my Dr. cut my anxiety med-lorazepam in half. He left it up to me the pain med vicodin. I cut it in half too. From 6 pills a day, I'm even down to two some days. I'm now getting out, driving, grocerys store errands. I still wait to drive a period of hours, because vicodin & lorazepam have an affect on us for driving. Can get a ticket if drive too soon after taking certain meds.
There is a good website rsdrx.com that under puzzles has a wealth of good information. Dr. Hooshmand is retired but still has website up
Hope the best for you and better pain control. What exercises are you able to do? Welcome again, and hope you find peace. loretta soft hugs

After reading your note ..you my dear have been thru a ton!! Thank you for sharing and I am very sorry for all that you have had to endure with your RSD.... 14 yrs!! Funny but I a mjust trying the Ambien CR for the second night last night.. Frist night was eh" partly ok.. but last night, I am not such a fan as I did not sleep well at all... As far as exercises, nothing really .. I rely on my daily activity of still working full time, you that ain't easy, to keep me mobile and moving.... I am not able to have anyone even look at me besides sit next to due to my pain level...and I have been thru the land/water PT quickly after I was diagnosised. Full body RSD sounds so freightening to me.. Is it pain from EVERYWHERE??? Currently, my pain is my rt. knee/leg, orignial site... left leg, hip and jaw. I am not taking anything and haven't been since I was diagnosised 2 + yrs. ago as my stomach is so, so sensitive... I have tryed lots os meds but I would be sick from them.. I Look forward to hearing from you and I return gentle hugs.. Thank you for welcoming me.. I have found friends here!!
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Hi Keep Smilin,
Welcome, we are glad to have you join our family. Please know this is a safe caring group of friends, like yourself, having good days and very difficult daysl Regardless, we desire to help each other.
I'm sorry your SCS didn't work. Happy for you going to Drexel next spring. Sounds like you have done a ton of research.
Sounds like you are in considerable pain I personally don't believe we can reach a long last zero pain level, unless we are in remission. My RSD came following benign breast tumor surgery (2) Got frozen shoulder and started pt, but wasn't diagnosed for 4 years. After 100 pt , I did go into remission for at least a year. No pain= back to playing tennis, water skiing, snow skiing etc. It was torture-the physical therapy and 100 massage theray The pt group told me not to be surprised if I got frozen shoulder on the other side. Well we moved from Oregon to Arizona and after a few months, it did cross over-frozen shoulder in right side. More pt and massage therapy and pain. Didn't take as long this time a2nd remission. Back tennis, skiing etc. The 2nd remission lasted at least another year, (I had not been diagnosed with RSD- just frozen shoulder, shooting pains thru my back. While waterskiing, I felt a painful pull in my left hand (original surgery side) It swelled up terribly and Dr. said I had Rheumatoid Arthritis. I told him how could that be when my blood tests were negative for RA. So, flew back to Oregon to sports injury orthopedic hand specialist. He diagnosed me with RSD in less than a minute. sent me over to nuclear med test and it was confirmed. He started me on pt there in Oregon and ordered a tens unit. I came back to AZ and saw a neurologist-tests confirmed RSD saw hand orthopedic Dr who confirmed and went into therapy and hand densitsitization. I also did the hand desensitization at home. I took 6 plastic bowls and put cotton balls in one, sand in another, coffee grounds, rice, just different textures etc. Over a long period of time, I was able to use my hand. It is permanently partially paralyzed, but I can cut my food, button clothes etc. I'm very grateful for the use that I have. RSD used to be called shoulder -hand syndrome It then moved to other hand, and I got right back into therapy and have full use of my right hand. I have generalized or full body RSD now and a couple years ago, my toes started curling up off the floor, Dr. got me right into water therapy and I did the exercises every day. Toes are now touching the floor and I'm still mobile!!!Yeah It's been 14 years and I have a wonderful Dr. the last 5 years.
One thing off can put us into terrible flare and downward spiral. I wasn't sleeping-Ambien CR wasn't working. I wouldn't get to sleep till 5-6 in the A.M.
This really sent me in downward spiral. My Dr. was doing a 200 person study for a pharmaceutical company. The study took a strong drug and tried a low dose amount to see it's affect on fibromyalgia patients. The results are outstanding and will soon be published. Besides positive effect on fibro. it had an outstanding affect for restorative sleep. I went on it that same day. I stayed in bed 3 days, but I still sleep 9 hours straight. Because of the restorative sleep, my Dr. cut my anxiety med-lorazepam in half. He left it up to me the pain med vicodin. I cut it in half too. From 6 pills a day, I'm even down to two some days. I'm now getting out, driving, grocerys store errands. I still wait to drive a period of hours, because vicodin & lorazepam have an affect on us for driving. Can get a ticket if drive too soon after taking certain meds.
There is a good website rsdrx.com that under puzzles has a wealth of good information. Dr. Hooshmand is retired but still has website up
Hope the best for you and better pain control. What exercises are you able to do? Welcome again, and hope you find peace. loretta soft hugs

After reading your note ..you my dear have been thru a ton!! Thank you for sharing and I am very sorry for all that you have had to endure with your RSD.... 14 yrs!! Funny but I am trying the Ambien CR for the second night last night.. Frist night was eh" partly ok.. but last night, I am not such a fan as I did not sleep well at all... As far as exercises, nothing really .. I rely on my daily activity of still working full time, you that that ain't easy, to keep me mobile and moving.... I am not able to have anyone even look at me besides sit next to due to my pain level...and I have been thru the land/water PT quickly after I was diagnosised. Full body RSD sounds so freightening to me.. Is it pain from EVERYWHERE??? Currently, my pain is my rt. knee/leg, orignial site... left leg, hip and jaw. I am not taking anything and haven't been since I was diagnosised 2 + yrs. ago as my stomach is so, so sensitive... Iam COLD TURKEY... I have a favorite saying.. I am ok, when people ask.. really Loretta, Iam not...you know what I mean, I am sure... I have tryed lots of meds but I would be sick from them.. I Look forward to hearing from you and I return gentle hugs.. Thank you for welcoming me.. I have found friends here!!
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Hi Keep Smiling !
Glad to meet you on the boards..I wish it were under other circumstances..but like you, I am very happy to have found this board, with all its information, support, and truly great people!!

I, too was diagnosed (officially) on my birthday!!, August 1st, 2008, post injury and surgery of left foot/ankle! I had asked the doc a couple of months before if he suspected RSD, as I did, and he said "no." But on my Birthday, August 1, last year he finally made the diagnosis. I think I had it post surgery on Feb. 21, 2008, and even possibly post injury in 2006.

Nevertheless, i've had 6 lumbar blocks and take Neurontin which I barely tolerate as I work a detailed job full time. I couldn't tolerate Cymbalta and declined methadone. I get 5 injections into the nerves of my foot monthly, and I, too walk with a cane!
To answer your question, do I ever feel Zero pain? Oh, how I wish I did!! The burning is always there to varying degress in my rsd foot/leg and also in my right foot/leg and sometimes on my face and in my mouth!

Walking is very painful as I can only walk a few yards at a time..with terrible pain..it is there even without walking..There have been a handful of fleeting moments where my pain was almost indiscernable..maybe three or four times..
Any movement flares it up, even a few revolutions on an excercise bike or aqua therapy pool..doc thinks I also have entrapped nerves.

Everyone has difference circumstances and issues and I am hoping there are some who have had zero pain from time to time !!
Here's hoping that for all of us!!
Welcome to the boards!!!!
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Hope4thebest...

Oh I gotta ask what kind of a birthday gift did both you and I get??? Although we do have a bunch in common and I appreciate that.. it's nice to meet you. As yours was 8/1/08.. mine was 6/26/07... Funny my Dr. is such a nice man, at the time I thought he was giving me "good" news as how can one get be handed RSD as a gift??? I, too wish it was not under such a painful illness and that we have this in common..
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Hi Keep Smilin'
Hey, maybe we'll get Remission for Christmas, to make up for the birthday diagnoses!
I am wondring how you cope with the pain without meds. Is there anything you take that might be natural, or any strategy you have to make it though the day..and the night?
What I have found so helpful, is meditation and relaxation techniques, to ease into the pain rather than avert it..this has helped me through a lot of rough times.
Currently I am taking an 8 week series of classes called Mindbully Based Stress Reduction' originally developed by Jon Kabat-Zin out of the University of Massachesetts Hospital...it is primarily for chronic pain sufferers and for anxiety as well. It focuses on meditation, relaxation techniques to ease pain, simple yoga, information on the biology of mind/pain connection..it has been extremely helpful....also meeting people with similar circumstances has eased that feeling of isolation and loneliness, of not being understood.
Wishing you a restful Sunday!
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Hi Keep Smilin'
Hey, maybe we'll get Remission for Christmas, to make up for the birthday diagnoses!
I am wondring how you cope with the pain without meds. Is there anything you take that might be natural, or any strategy you have to make it though the day..and the night?
What I have found so helpful, is meditation and relaxation techniques, to ease into the pain rather than avert it..this has helped me through a lot of rough times.
Currently I am taking an 8 week series of classes called Mindbully Based Stress Reduction' originally developed by Jon Kabat-Zin out of the University of Massachesetts Hospital...it is primarily for chronic pain sufferers and for anxiety as well. It focuses on meditation, relaxation techniques to ease pain, simple yoga, information on the biology of mind/pain connection..it has been extremely helpful....also meeting people with similar circumstances has eased that feeling of isolation and loneliness, of not being understood.
Wishing you a restful Sunday!
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I have to answer your question and that is how do I make it without any assistance, pain meds or bio feedback...??? Well that tells you what kind of a nut Iam.. I just "hope4thebest" each day.. kinda funny huh?.. No strategy really... I take what I can get and relish in the support of my family and friends.. I try not to expect less of RSD, fully knowing what I am in for so I am prepared to wake up with the pain and fight for each day until I can find something to help me.. I am not discouraged, yet.. (although it's a big, painful fight each day, you know)... really I am a better person for having RSD as I now know how resilent I can be and how much I appreciate the simplier things in my life.. I have a new motto.. here it is.. "it's the simple, free stuff that matters in life"... My PM Dr. had given two scripts a few months back..1 for accupncture the other was for a biofeedback, as you described and was helpful for you,.. At the time I chose the acupuncture, that didn't work.. so I will move on the biofeedback next, thank you for the info. btw.... I am not saying I have my moments or hours which I am sure are fueled by the pain, which we all have, I am sure... but at this time I am trying to focus on life as it is..and keep on smilin..

Lets hope together that Christmas will bring us both a long dose of remission.. So we can let that one birthday go.. we'll have many more!!!! Happy Birthday to you btw.. in a good way!!
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I am Linda, my friends call me Dew..nice to meet you. Sorry it under the RSD umbrella. I too had RSD start in my right knee, injury in 3/07 that started burning immediately, then surgery 5/07..injury in 12/07 ,same knee,and surgery in 1/08..WC injuries. It took over 15 months for dx to be made..1 1/2 yrs of PT..My PM doc told me that too much time elapsed before he got to me for blocks, SCS, to do any good! I also walk with a cane, and have been called House as I use the cane on my right side,LOL!
I am on SSDI now, disabled because of this culprit. It has spread to both legs, spine, both arms and hands. Some days I wish I had a wheelchair..but, then again..I am cautious to start using one. I have a med cocktail that consists of 18 pills per day. Rain..or any change in barometric pressure brings on pain flares.I see a psychologist every 2 weeks as I am also dx with Major Depression,Anxiety/Panic Disorder, Insomnia, Fibromyalgia, etc,all by=products of the RSD.

I have never had a pain level of 0..I WISH! The burn and/or deep ache is always present; however, the med cocktail that I take everyday tones the pain down.
Pleased to meet you.
Keep your art work flowing, Dew.. great to hear form you and I must say..I love the art work..very cool!!! I look for it...

Seems we have much in common.. the cane (only I walk with it on my left)... and rt. leg involvement.. I had too had surgery, twice in 07' being diagnosised with RSD in June, my birthday, of that year... only I did have the SCS implanted in 9/08... funny but it was not told to me prior to having it put in but after I was told.. we waited to long between the temporary unit and my permanent unit.. (4/08 until 9/08)... and my RSD had advanced.. it does not help and it actually hurts me...The neuro surgeon ( I ahd at the time, I dumped him prior to the surgery.. he missed a herinated disk in my back too)..... wanted to wait until a smaller unit was manufactured and due to that.. it cost me the chance to have it be useful.. although others may benefit..... We take our days as they come.. always a new adventure but I believe we must always stay hopeful and never tire from each days challenges.. but it's support and patience we need... Thank you!!!!Hug for a better tomorrow
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