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mrsD 01-10-2010 04:38 PM

The average dose for humans or Taurine is 1000mg (gram) daily or twice a day.z(this is a therapeutic dose) For cats, it is much less, of course.

So 60gm would be 60 doses for a human.

There is one patient on PN who uses glutamine for her husband.
Most glutamine (about 1/2 is kept in the GI lining), and the rest goes into the body.
This article recommends a very high dose of glutamine:
http://www.thedietchannel.com/Glutam...Neuropathy.htm
But this article is for chemotherapy induced PN.

L-taurine and Taurine I believe is used interchangeably. I don't think they sell mixed RL Taurine. The R (also called D) form is not bioactive.
So check the label of what you buy.

I have not seen any problems with carnitine and taurine. They are pretty benign. Very high amounts of glutamine could conceivable lead to elevated glutamate formation, as glutamate is an end product of the complex chemistry for glutamine. Very high glutaMATE can stimulate pain receptors. But since glutamine is a substrate for many reactions, it might not be a problem for most people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine

Here is one trivia factoid... human breast milk is 10 times higher in glutamine than cow's milk. Seems human infants require this to develop a healthy digestive system.

Mslday 01-10-2010 05:07 PM

Hi Mrs D.

Here is a link to the article I read on Amino Acids and diet in Chronic Pain Management. http://www.dynamichealthresources.co...s_april_09.pdf

I'm also thinking of supplementing with the 20 amino acid chain recommended in this article. I find this all quite interesting.

As for the cats diet I think he'll be quite happy with even a bit a taurine sprinkled on his shrimp. I sprinkle a small amount of lysine on his food when life gets a bit stressful around here, like when the repair guys come into the house rattling all their tools :wink:

Warm wishes.

MsL

mrsD 01-10-2010 05:22 PM

I have used tryptophan myself, with good results. 500mg at bedtime.

I would only suggest at this time to start with lower doses and increase. You might get by with lower doses.

The Whey designer proteins, are often a good place to start.
You can make smoothies with them, and have some fun with it.

Often whey sources of aminos are more cost effective, and help with maintaining lean muscle mass as we age.
When you buy the aminos in supplements put into capsules they tend to cost more.

Mslday 01-10-2010 05:38 PM

Angels & Animals
 
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An angel, in the sense in which we use the term here, is not necessarily a celestial being. Any messenger who wakes us up to be more alive, more truly ourselves, is an angel. The Greek term “angelos” means “messenger.” We have all met messengers in this sense. They come in the most unexpected guises. We may not be immediately aware of it, but their messages are all about gratefulness.

Yes, we are truly thankful to that “angel” who flashes us a smile on a rainy day or gives us the quarter we thought we had at hand when we got on the bus. And of course we are thankful to our animal helpers – not only to seeing-eye dogs, but also to the cat purring in our lap, the sparrow chirping under the eaves, the antelopes which we see only in pictures. Each of them sends us a message of joy.

Our focus here is not on thankfulness, though, but on gratefulness. Animals teach us gratefulness, the art of being in the moment. We humans half cling to the past, half stretch out to the future, with little of us left to enjoy the now. Animals are fully present. Through their unconditional acceptance of each moment, they sometimes draw even us into it.

When humans learn to be gratefully present every moment, they become angels. It’s not the wings that make the angel, but the message of courageous presence and creative acceptance, no matter what the moment brings: “Fear not!”

“ I have lived with several Zen masters – all of them cats.” - Eckhart Tolle, The Power of NOW.
This put a real smile on my face from Gratefulness.org http://www.gratefulness.org/p/animals.cfm

Warm wishes to all.

MsL

Kakimbo 01-13-2010 12:14 PM

Hi Msl!

Really? Another Main Coon named Sebastian? I bottle fed my racoon when she was an infant, a replacement for cat milk. Then the pet store said to feed her Puppy Chow. It was a riot to watch. She would wash her hands in her water bowl, then wash her food (which then fell apart!) racoons are very clean animals and love shiny things. She would sit on top of the couch and pounce on my head to get my earrings. She would sneak into my purse and steal my quarters and flip them around in her hands for hours. I would later find them in my chest of drawers. I always thought that when mother cats cleaned their kittens, it was an emotional response. I learned the hard way that baby racoons, like kittens, need to be taught to go to the bathroom. Kinda gross...

Mslday 01-13-2010 01:49 PM

Hi Kim,

Do you have any pictures of your Sebastian? That's just too funny, I'd love to see what the other Sebastian looks like. What is your Raccoons name? Raccoons are very smart aren't they.

Warm wishes.

MsL

Lynns409 01-14-2010 02:09 AM

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Crazy kittyness!

Thank you all for responding to this- I hope it made everyone feel a little better and maybe smile for a moment. Lucy always makes me laugh. I swear, she is the best $58 I ever spent (little pound kitty). She has a new catnip cigar, and she's just been going nutty the last few days. And I found her a bird feather too. As an indoor kitty, this is as close as she gets to wildlife, and it makes her very excited. So she keeps her cigar and feather at the foot of the bed- yes, she carries around her toys like a little dog. And then if you come near them she will go and guard them, just in case you want to steal them from her.

This is a nice photo of Miss Lucy- coming out of a box. What is it with kitties and boxes? I swear that half of my photos are of her being silly in a box.

mrsD 01-14-2010 03:26 AM

If your cat lived on the street, she will have some odd habits, I think.

My son's 3rd cat who adopted HIM by running in the door one cold day, has some odd habits. She rummages thru the garbage, and will eat anything. She also loves boxes more than the other two (I guess she lived in some) and she tends to sit or sleep over the heat registers in his new home.

She is also very SMART.

Kakimbo 01-14-2010 09:32 PM

Haha! Yes, kitties are smarter than we are! We are THEIR pets! (I'm usually not complaining about this). It's too cute the way they find ways to be pretty. When I was stringing the lights on my Christmas tree, my innocent one just jumped in the middle of them and posed for the camera. I swear, it is the best pic I have ever taken. Even cuter than my kids! We are SO trained...I wish I would be fed, have my bathroom cleaned and have someone pet me 24/7! Hmm, lobster for lunch, a good rub, climbing into anything I want without having to clean up after my mess. Tuna for dinner, another rub, maybe a brushing, a good nap, more snacks. Oh yeah, where's my desert B***tch?!? Now I'm tired so leave me alone!

Kakimbo 01-14-2010 09:46 PM

Hi MsL!

I DID have really good pics of my Sebastian. My computer crashed right before Christmas and am on my Third replacement since. (don't ask!); so no, I don't have any pics. He was very gray and striped. Looked like he was wearing sweat pants. He was very noble, hence the name Sebastian. If he coulda smoked a pipe and worn glasses; he would. I saw your pics. Very handsome and elegant. I don't think I have ever seen a more beautiful creature.

My racoon's name was "Tink". I called her "Bebee", just because of the lilt of it. Think my ex-husband called her "Tink" was because he loved to deer hunt and tink is lure. (She always responded to me first!). She would float around in our pool on a floatie and I would actually paint her nails! I swear, above the risk, she was the very best pet (besides Sebastian, of course!) ever!


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